<div style="white-space:pre-wrap">+1 for Shane and rafik </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 07:51 Raoul Plommer <<a href="mailto:plommer@gmail.com">plommer@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">+1 to Shane for refocusing us all and to Rafik for creating a Gdoc for the statement. Consensus around this issue is very important.</div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">-Raoul</div></div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg">On 22 November 2016 at 08:36, Rafik Dammak <span dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg">Hi Shane,<br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg">thanks for this effort to summarise the discussion, really helpful.</div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg">I think we can move those items to either google doc, etherpad and so on to work on the statement and let people comment directly or proposing edits there. definitely it is not early to start if we want to find a consensus based text. if everyone is ok, I can create a google doc quickly .</div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg">Best,</div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg">Rafik</div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg">
<br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-8522735735553231023h5 gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-8522735735553231023m_3656893772595384325gmail-h5 gmail_msg">2016-11-22 14:15 GMT+09:00 Shane Kerr <span dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><<a href="mailto:shane@time-travellers.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">shane@time-travellers.org</a>></span>:<br class="gmail_msg"></div></div></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-8522735735553231023h5 gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-8522735735553231023m_3656893772595384325gmail-h5 gmail_msg">Hello,<br class="gmail_msg">
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Apologies if I mis-characterize the discussion. It is not my intent to<br class="gmail_msg">
pursue an agenda regarding the discussion here, but rather to try to<br class="gmail_msg">
see where we are at and to make sure that the topic doesn't get dropped.<br class="gmail_msg">
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It seems there are some areas of agreement regarding ICANN's proposed<br class="gmail_msg">
anti-harassment policy, but also some areas of disagreement.<br class="gmail_msg">
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Possible agreement:<br class="gmail_msg">
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* The power of the ombudsperson in this process needs to be tempered<br class="gmail_msg">
and/or changed.<br class="gmail_msg">
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Probable disagreement:<br class="gmail_msg">
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* Having a list of examples of harassment is a good idea.<br class="gmail_msg">
* We should have a procedure for dealing with vexatious complaints.<br class="gmail_msg">
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Unsure:<br class="gmail_msg">
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* Privacy of everyone should be insured by the process.<br class="gmail_msg">
* List of Specified Characteristic is unwieldy.<br class="gmail_msg">
* Ongoing harassment should be addressed.<br class="gmail_msg">
* Specific changes to the role of ombudsperson in the process. Perhaps a<br class="gmail_msg">
separate, community (non-staff, non-board) position for this?<br class="gmail_msg">
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I don't think that we can get consensus on the areas of disagreement.<br class="gmail_msg">
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I would like to hope that we can get consensus on at least some of<br class="gmail_msg">
those that I am unsure about.<br class="gmail_msg">
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There may be other issues that have not come up yet, of course.<br class="gmail_msg">
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Possibly we'll need to commit to having an NCUC response as well as<br class="gmail_msg">
separate responses by people about issues of disagreement?<br class="gmail_msg">
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Is it too early to start drafting text about what we do agree on?<br class="gmail_msg">
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Cheers,<br class="gmail_msg">
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Shane<br class="gmail_msg">
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