+ 1 absolutely that would be more efficient.<br><br>Le mardi 22 novembre 2016, matthew shears <<a href="mailto:mshears@cdt.org">mshears@cdt.org</a>> a écrit :<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>+ 1 Rafik - that would be very helpful.<br>
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    <div>On 22/11/2016 06:36, Rafik Dammak
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        <div>Hi Shane,<br>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">thanks for this effort to summarise the
          discussion, really helpful.</div>
        <div class="gmail_extra">I think we can move those items to
          either google doc, etherpad and so on to work on the statement
          and let people comment directly or proposing edits there.
          definitely it is not early to start if we want to find a
          consensus based text. if everyone is ok, I can create a google
          doc quickly .</div>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div>
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                      <div>2016-11-22 14:15 GMT+09:00
                        Shane Kerr <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','shane@time-travellers.org');" target="_blank">shane@time-travellers.org</a>></span>:<br>
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                        <div>Hello,<br>
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                          Apologies if I mis-characterize the
                          discussion. It is not my intent to<br>
                          pursue an agenda regarding the discussion
                          here, but rather to try to<br>
                          see where we are at and to make sure that the
                          topic doesn't get dropped.<br>
                          <br>
                          It seems there are some areas of agreement
                          regarding ICANN's proposed<br>
                          anti-harassment policy, but also some areas of
                          disagreement.<br>
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                          Possible agreement:<br>
                          <br>
                          * The power of the ombudsperson in this
                          process needs to be tempered<br>
                            and/or changed.<br>
                          <br>
                          Probable disagreement:<br>
                          <br>
                          * Having a list of examples of harassment is a
                          good idea.<br>
                          * We should have a procedure for dealing with
                          vexatious complaints.<br>
                          <br>
                          Unsure:<br>
                          <br>
                          * Privacy of everyone should be insured by the
                          process.<br>
                          * List of Specified Characteristic is
                          unwieldy.<br>
                          * Ongoing harassment should be addressed.<br>
                          * Specific changes to the role of ombudsperson
                          in the process. Perhaps a<br>
                            separate, community (non-staff, non-board)
                          position for this?<br>
                          <br>
                          I don't think that we can get consensus on the
                          areas of disagreement.<br>
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                          I would like to hope that we can get consensus
                          on at least some of<br>
                          those that I am unsure about.<br>
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                          There may be other issues that have not come
                          up yet, of course.<br>
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                          Possibly we'll need to commit to having an
                          NCUC response as well as<br>
                          separate responses by people about issues of
                          disagreement?<br>
                          <br>
                          Is it too early to start drafting text about
                          what we do agree on?<br>
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                          Cheers,<br>
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                          --<br>
                          Shane<br>
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