<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470858794528_61598"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470858794528_61602">I agree with Avri on this. And to add to this, can the EC please forward, per the Article XI of the by laws, all the emails/notices sent to Peter and the communications made on the subject. Also, if any meeting done in this regard, sharing of minutes etc would be appreciated. </span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470858794528_61974" dir="ltr"><br><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470858794528_61602"></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470858794528_61975" dir="ltr">Sincerely, <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470858794528_61700" class="qtdSeparateBR"><br></div><div style="display: block;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470858794528_61696" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470858794528_61695" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470858794528_61694" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470858794528_61693" dir="ltr"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470858794528_62036" size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> avri doria <avri@apc.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, August 8, 2016 5:27 PM<br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470858794528_62040"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470858794528_62039" style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] important information<br> </font> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470858794528_61698" class="y_msg_container"><br>Hi,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Before we judge someone, I am curious about the due process issues.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Was the accused afforded an opportunity to make his case? <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Did he know there was going to be a meeting to discuss removing him from<br clear="none">office?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">And I am urious, under what provision of the NCUC 'charter' was this<br clear="none">secret meeting held and this action taken?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">thanks<br clear="none"><br clear="none">avri<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">On 08-Aug-16 08:16, Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G. wrote:<br clear="none">> Thank you very much Rafik!<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> incredible (un)ethical (double)standards indeed for a member of the EC.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez<br clear="none">> +506 8837 7176<br clear="none">> Skype: carlos.raulg<br clear="none">> Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica)<br clear="none">> On 7 Aug 2016, at 21:45, Rafik Dammak wrote:<br clear="none">><br clear="none">>> Dear members:<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> I am sharing with you an important and extraordinary announcement. Last<br clear="none">>> week the NCUC EC agreed to ask one of its members, Peter Green, to resign.<br clear="none">>> It was not an easy act or one that we took lightly, and we had to think<br clear="none">>> about it for some time. Our action was necessary because of an undeclared<br clear="none">>> conflict of interest and a clash with our membership eligibility rules.<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> Peter is an employee of CONAC, a TLD registry associated with the<br clear="none">>> government of China. As a CONAC employee, he is an active member of and<br clear="none">>> participant in the Registry Stakeholder Group. It has been a longstanding<br clear="none">>> principle of NCUC membership eligibility rules that people or organizations<br clear="none">>> that are members of another SG or constituency in the GNSO cannot also be<br clear="none">>> members of NCUC (bylaws III.3). This is done to prevent other interest<br clear="none">>> groups from attempting to control or unduly shape our Constituency, which<br clear="none">>> is devoted to noncommercial user interests.<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> Peter has been actively working on behalf of the Registry SG for some time,<br clear="none">>> even as he has been serving on our Executive Committee. This is evident<br clear="none">>> from articles such as this<br clear="none">>> <a shape="rect" href="http://www.chinagov.cn/english/News/CONACNews/201509/t20150924_281168.html" target="_blank">http://www.chinagov.cn/english/News/CONACNews/201509/t20150924_281168.html</a><br clear="none">>> and from records of the registry constituency working group such as this<br clear="none">>> <a shape="rect" href="https://community.icann.org/display/S1SF/Drafting+Team" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/S1SF/Drafting+Team</a><br clear="none">>> We note with concern that Peter's Conflict of Interest statement when<br clear="none">>> running for election to the NCUC EC failed to mention his employment at<br clear="none">>> CONAC.<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> I wanted you to be aware of this issue and to understand the basis for our<br clear="none">>> actions.<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> Best Regards,<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> Rafik Dammak<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> Dear Peter (Zuan Zhang):<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> For some time we (the undersigned representatives of the Executive<br clear="none">>> Committee) have received complaints or expressions of concern about your<br clear="none">>> eligibility for membership in the Noncommercial Stakeholders Group. The EC<br clear="none">>> has investigated this matter and has come to the conclusion that you are<br clear="none">>> ineligible for NCSG membership and thus must resign from the NCUC Executive<br clear="none">>> Committee immediately.<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> We want to make it clear that this is not caused by any misconduct on your<br clear="none">>> part; it is purely a matter of applying our eligibility rules. Your<br clear="none">>> contribution to our EC has been exemplary, but we cannot continue to<br clear="none">>> contradict our membership rules. This would open the door to many other<br clear="none">>> ineligible members and possible abuses. We hope you can accept this<br clear="none">>> decision in a good spirit.<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> Section 2.2.2 of the NCSG charter specifically excludes from membership<br clear="none">>> "Organizations that are represented in ICANN through another Supporting<br clear="none">>> Organization."<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> Section 2.2.5 of the NCSG charter makes it clear that individuals are<br clear="none">>> eligible only if they are "not represented in ICANN through membership in<br clear="none">>> another Supporting Organization or GNSO Stakeholder Group."<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> As an employee of CONAC, you are a member of the Registry stakeholder group<br clear="none">>> and have played an active role representing CONAC in the Registry<br clear="none">>> Stakeholder Group (RSG). CONAC is a domain name registry, which has its own<br clear="none">>> Stakeholder Group, where your affiliation with CONAC as an employee is<br clear="none">>> persistent and strong. We understand that before CONAC was a TLD registry,<br clear="none">>> its employees were admitted into NCSG because there was no other place for<br clear="none">>> them to be represented and there was less of a conflict of interest. But<br clear="none">>> that time has passed; CONAC is now a full-fledged TLD registry operator and<br clear="none">>> its policy interests are represented in the RSG.<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> We thank you for your prior participation in our group and encourage you to<br clear="none">>> stay involved in the GNSO via the Registry Stakeholder Group.<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> Farzaneh Badii<br clear="none">>> Caribe Joao Carlos<br clear="none">>> Rafik Dammak<br clear="none">>> Grace Githaiga<br clear="none">>> Milton Mueller<br clear="none">>> _______________________________________________<br clear="none">>> Ncuc-discuss mailing list<br clear="none">>> <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br clear="none">>> <a shape="rect" href="http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss" target="_blank">http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a><br clear="none">> _______________________________________________<br clear="none">> Ncuc-discuss mailing list<br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss" target="_blank">http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">---<br clear="none">This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" target="_blank">https://www.avast.com/antivirus</a><div class="yqt4708479040" id="yqtfd61785"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Ncuc-discuss mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss" target="_blank">http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>