<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462366764822_18572"><span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462366764822_18522" class="qtdSeparateBR"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462366764822_18662">Hi Ayden, Was just looking into the list of the countries on Adobeconnect dial out request and they have Sudan mentioned out there. <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462366764822_18729"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462366764822_18730" dir="ltr">May be, Hiba can give it a try and share the experience. The Middle East DNS Forum is currently taking place and remote participation facility via adobconnect is available @ <a id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462366764822_18739" href="http://tunis2016.mednsf.org/en/remote-participation/">http://tunis2016.mednsf.org/en/remote-participation/</a></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462366764822_18744" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462366764822_18838" dir="ltr">A number of folks from NCUC are already around in this forum.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462366764822_18841" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462366764822_18851" dir="ltr">Best, <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462366764822_18850" dir="ltr">Zakir<br></div><br></div><div style="display: block;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462366764822_18570" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462366764822_18569" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462366764822_18568" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462366764822_18567" dir="ltr"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462366764822_18840" size="2" face="Arial"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462366764822_18839" size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Zakir Syed <zakirbinrehman@yahoo.com> <br><b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462366764822_18901"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462366764822_18900" style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Hiba Eltigani <higba6@gmail.com>; "ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" <ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org><br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462366764822_18903"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462366764822_18902" style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, May 4, 2016 3:20 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Does ICANN really foster collaboration?<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv5777800821"><div>Hi Zakir,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>I am not sure that is the case. I am aware of other forums which do not dial out to embargoed countries and I am not certain that the Adobe Connect team would facilitate this. However, I would like to know if ICANN staff are able to make phone calls to Sudan. This is an issue worth investigating. <span></span></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Ayden <br clear="none"><br clear="none">On Wednesday, 4 May 2016, Zakir Syed <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:zakirbinrehman@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:zakirbinrehman@yahoo.com">zakirbinrehman@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><div class="yiv5777800821yqt4231364655" id="yiv5777800821yqt44898"><blockquote class="yiv5777800821gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div>They can. A dial-out can always be requested to get an incoming call and join a meeting. <br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Best, <br clear="none"></div><div>Zakir<br clear="none"></div><div><span></span></div><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> </font><hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Ayden Férdeline <<a href="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">icann@ferdeline.com</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Hiba Eltigani <<a href="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">higba6@gmail.com</a>> <br clear="none"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> "<a href="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a>" <<a href="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, May 4, 2016 2:58 PM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Does ICANN really foster collaboration?<br clear="none"> </div> <div><br clear="none"><div><div>I am curious as to whether ICANN staff can dial you into the audio bridge or not, so there is no financial outlay required on your part to participate in phone calls. I don't know the answer here, but you do flag an interesting situation. Being headquartered in the United States ICANN and its suppliers have<span></span> an obligation to comply with US trade embargoes, but it sounds like this is inadvertently limiting participation. <div><br clear="none"></div><div>Ayden<br clear="none"><br clear="none">On Wednesday, 4 May 2016, Hiba Eltigani <<a href="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">higba6@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr">Hello Ayden<br clear="none">
Thanks for swift reply. The issue is related to sanctions because the tool is accessible using VPNs and tunnels. I haven't come across the audio bridge option in the events i tried to connect remotely to but there was a dial-in option using international calls.</div>
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<div>On May 4, 2016 11:35 AM, "Ayden Férdeline" <<a href="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">icann@ferdeline.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<div>Hi Hiba,</div><div><br clear="none">Thanks for flagging this issue. Why are you unable to access Adobe Connect in Sudan? What happens when you try to access the platform? Is this because Adobe can not export products to Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, Syria, and other countries where the United States embargoes goods? Are you still able to participate in working groups via the audio bridge?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Best wishes,</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Ayden Férdeline</div><div><div>
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Referring to the last communication about the new chat tool, i want to raise questions about whether ICANN is really fostering collaboration or advocating for equal access.<br clear="none">
I come from Sudan and you all know about the US sanctions issue which is political thing and may be nothing can be done about it in this context. But i think the least that can be done is to insure that users who have equal right to access and participate in ICANN events as part of the brodaer community. <br clear="none">
Curently “Adobe connect” can't be accessed in Sudan and this means eliminating a whole community from having their voice heard. Given that, talks about access seems very theoretical. I don't think it is hard for an organization works in the heart of the Internet to find/ put alternatives tools that work for everyone.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Sorry if this is not the right place to raise these concerns but i am just speaking for Internet users in Sudan.</div>
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