<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi<div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 9, 2016, at 17:46, Peter Green <<a href="mailto:seekcommunications@hotmail.com" class="">seekcommunications@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">Cannot agree more here. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I propose we, as non-commercial part of the community, make ICANN to prioritize this issue. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Makes sense to me, some of us have raised this repeatedly in Council and elsewhere over the years without getting anywhere, so an organized push is probably needed. I imagine this might be more effective if done in partnership with At Large, the members of which encounter these issues as well. Produce a document for submission to the Board, as well as to Constituency Travel (which I recall was talking about increase staff resources on this, don’t know what happened).<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Saying so, I further propose that ICANN could have a specific logo on the invitation letter which will serve as a sign or alert for the embassies to place ICANN Meeting visa applications to a more emergent level than tour and some other purposes of visa.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Interesting idea</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Cheers</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Bill<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My two cents.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best Regards</div><div class="">Zuan/Peter<br class=""><div style="" class=""><hr tabindex="-1" style="display: inline-block; width: 982.9375px;" class=""><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><b class="">���:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Ncuc-discuss <<a href="mailto:ncuc-discuss-bounces@lists.ncuc.org" class="">ncuc-discuss-bounces@lists.ncuc.org</a>> �� DeeDee Halleck <<a href="mailto:deedeehalleck@gmail.com" class="">deedeehalleck@gmail.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">���ʱ��:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>2016��3��9�� 22:08<br class=""><b class="">�ռ���:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>William Drake<br class=""><b class="">���:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>NCUC-discuss<br class=""><b class="">���:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NomCom public meeting, Wednesday</font><div class=""> </div></div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">To insure diverse representation we should speak up for strong Visa assistance. We cannot expect the commercial or the tech or the government sectors to care about this.ICANN staff must be delegated to address VISA issues. Urging this is well within our moral obligations to broaden global participation. If not us, who?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 9:01 AM, William Drake<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank" class="">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word;" class=""><div class="">Hi</div><br class=""><div class=""><span class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 9, 2016, at 12:14, farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Thank you Bill for asking my question. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think the person in charge argued that they in NomCom did not have many visa issues ??? Well why would you have a Sub-Committee on visa then ! It is beyond me. </div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div></span>To determine whether we did, I guess.<span class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I don't care if this was a subcommittee only on nomcom visa issues and they didnt have to ask the community. I wanted to see how they functioned and what was the result because it is an issue that affects us all.</div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div></span>I chaired a different subcom and wasn�t on this one so am not sure, you could ask Hartmut. I suspect they determined that members faced no problems, and shut down. I�m not sure how this affects anyone other than the people involved. NomCom has no role in anything than the work of the NomCom.<span class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">What I was trying to get at is: Tackling visa issues should be a joint effort . If not, we cannot tackle it. If they had a sub-committee on visa issues and then the result was : oh visa is beyond our control! then it is gonna affect others in the community who are working to resolve the issue! It is very careless! I received an email from another community member asking me : have you worked with these guys, what are their solutions ?<br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div></span>The NomCom has zero role in anything pertaining to the community�s travel arrangements. So I am hard pressed to understand how it not doing something that is miles outs its remit can rationally be called careless. But your concerns have been conveyed to the Chair.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Bill<div class=""><div class="h5"><br class=""></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>