<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi, were any NCUC-ers able to attend the December 1 call on the State Department's Global Connect Initiative? We had a a good debate going on about this here, and was wondering if more details about the initiative are now out.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Arun</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:small">-- </span><br style="font-size:small"><div style="font-size:small"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Head, Cyber Initiative<div>Observer Research Foundation, New Delhi</div><div><a href="http://amsukumar.tumblr.com/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://amsukumar.tumblr.com</a></div><div>+91-9871943272</div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Norbert Klein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nhklein@gmx.net" target="_blank">nhklein@gmx.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    +1 for all what was said here.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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    <div>On 09/30/2015 06:09 PM, Arun Mohan
      Sukumar wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">With Milton on this, but let's wait for the text,
        IMO. If there is some role for ICANN, then it's important that
        non-commercial constituents (either through the NCUC or through
        regional outreach initiatives) play a significant role in
        pushing it.
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        <div>The initiative should not be some front for greater access
          to the private sector.</div>
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        <div>arun</div>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 12:47 PM,
            William Drake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>></span>
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                        <div>On Sep 26, 2015, at 5:36 PM, Mueller,
                          Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton.mueller@pubpolicy.gatech.edu" target="_blank">milton.mueller@pubpolicy.gatech.edu</a>>
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                        <div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline!important;float:none">I
                            would oppose signing it. </span></div>
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                    </span>anticipated :-)</div>
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                        <div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline!important;float:none">My
                            opposition comes partly from it being
                            outside of NCUC’s remit as a GNSO
                            constituency</span></div>
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                    </span>It’d obviously be easier to assess the extent
                    of overlap if we had the USG text, but they’re
                    holding it for now. My guess from the DC civil
                    society folks who started this is that there’s some,
                    hence my question.</div>
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                            and partly from the fact that there are
                            parts of the statement I don’t agree with.
                            Even those parts I do agree with I think
                            raise false expectations for no purpose
                            other than the political posturing benefit
                            of the proposers. Did I miss something or
                            how many trillions of dollars are being
                            allocated to this program in order to move
                            African internet penetration up from 16% to,
                            um, 30%? I see a lot of feelgood statements
                            about how the world needs more internet and
                            not a single concrete proposal that moves us
                            toward that goal, and  I just have an
                            inherent tendency to resist being drawn into
                            these kinds of PR things.</span></div>
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                  <div>Skepticism can have its advantages.  Personally I
                    don’t think we know enough to be dismissive ex ante
                    about what will actually be done, but fair point.</div>
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                  <div>Good to hear more thoughts.</div>
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                  <div>Cheers</div>
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                  <div>Bill</div>
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