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    ANd here is another nice EPIC comment, this time from 2007
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    Steph<br>
    PS this is so discouraging. Somebody please cheer me up.   Same
    arguments, need new strategy. <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2015-08-21 18:24, Robin Gross wrote:<br>
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      type="cite">I found another NCUC comment to ICANN from 2006 on
      WHOIS that can go on NCUC's new website:
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      <div>Robin</div>
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          <div>On Aug 21, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Robin Gross wrote:</div>
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              -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Thanks, Tamir!
               Here's a couple more oldies-but-goodies on the
              never-ending Whois privacy debacle:
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              <div>Robin</div>
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                  <div>On Aug 21, 2015, at 10:31 AM, Tamir Israel wrote:</div>
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                    <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Robin has
                      inspired me to dig this up -- comment from CIPPIC
                      on the same WHOIS Task Force Prelim Report:<br>
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                      Best,<br>
                      Tamir<br>
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                      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/21/2015 1:26 PM,
                        Robin Gross wrote:<br>
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                        type="cite">Here are some comments that IP
                        Justice submitted in July 2004 on ICANN's WHOIS
                        Task Force Preliminary Report:
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                        <div>Thanks,</div>
                        <div>Robin</div>
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                            <div>On Aug 19, 2015, at 9:35 AM, William
                              Drake wrote:</div>
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                                <div class="">Over the past 15 years
                                  NCUC has generated a lot of policy
                                  statements, letters, replies to public
                                  comments, etc (since 2011, most of
                                  this gets done under the NCSG flag).
                                   It would be good if material we have
                                  produced were available in an
                                  organized manner, both for our
                                  internal purposes (as institutional
                                  memory, background for new members,
                                  etc.) and externally (so others in the
                                  ICANN community and beyond know where
                                  we stand on things).  Hence, over the
                                  past few years I’ve periodically sent
                                  messages to the list asking veterans
                                  who have stuff on their hard drives to
                                  disgorge the material so we can
                                  aggregate it in a simple, publicly
                                  accessible manner.</div>
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                                <div class="">Maryam has been trying to
                                  pull together what we have at </div>
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                                <div class="">But the amount we have at
                                  hand is really paltry in comparison to
                                  what we've actually done.  So this is
                                  a periodic reminder message: could
                                  people who have ready access to old
                                  docs please send them to Maryam?  And
                                  yes, when we’ve culled what we can
                                  from members this way, of course we
                                  could dig through list archives and
                                  the GNSO lists etc. in search of
                                  attachments…but let’s start with the
                                  easy stuff.</div>
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                                <div class="">BTW, please also consider
                                  adding content to the other parts of
                                  the website we’ve set up for this
                                  purpose— links to ICANN/IG related
                                  events and such that people have
                                  organized can be posted at <a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="http://www.ncuc.org/member-activities/"
                                    class="">http://www.ncuc.org/member-activities/</a>,
                                  blogs done for NCUC or for other
                                  personal sites can be listed at <a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="http://www.ncuc.org/members-blog/"
                                    class="">http://www.ncuc.org/members-blog/</a>,
                                  and in lieu of a bios page, members’
                                  URLs can be listed at <a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="http://www.ncuc.org/about/members/"
                                    class="">http://www.ncuc.org/about/members/</a> </div>
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                                <div class="">Sharing information on who
                                  we are and what we are doing can be
                                  useful in all kinds of ways….</div>
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                                <div class="">Thanks</div>
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