<div dir="ltr">Thanks Bill for the explanation, which has actually thrown us back to Jean's earlier outlines for consideration.<br><i><br>"I would suggest the following steps, which can all be taken in a fairly brief and simple way:<br>
- the current Executive Council (EC) of NCUC sends out a call for candidates for the position of Delegate to the NomCom,<br>
- this call is accompanied by a reminder of the relevant Bylaws, and of the desired criteria of NCUC (diversity, etc.),<br>
- the EC calls a vote on the list of candidates who satisfy the criteria; all registered members of NCUC may vote,<br>
- the individual garnering the most votes can then be appointed by NCUC."</i><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">____<div>REMMY NWEKE, Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor, <br><span style="background-color:rgb(255,0,0)">DigitalSENSE Africa Media Ltd</span> <span>[<i>Multiple-award winning medium</i>]<br></span>(<a href="http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng/businessnews" target="_blank">DigitalSENSE Business News</a>; <a href="http://www.itrealms.com.ng" target="_blank">ITREALMS</a>, <a href="http://www.naijaagronet.com.ng" target="_blank">NaijaAgroNet</a>)<br>Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos<br>M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: <a href="http://www.twitter.com/ITRealms" target="_blank">@ITRealms<br></a><div>Author: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/adecadeofictreportageinnigeria" target="_blank">A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria</a><br><a href="https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153112418861429&set=a.119216361428.104226.716351428&type=1" target="_blank">NDSF 2016</a><br>_________________________________________________________________<br><font size="1">*Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution.</font><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 6:13 PM, William Drake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><a href="http://www.ncuc.org/governance/bylaws/" target="_blank">http://www.ncuc.org/governance/bylaws/</a> <div><br></div><div>IV.F lists as among the EC’s duties, </div><div><br></div><div><i>6. Appoint the Constituency’s representatives to the ICANN Nominating Committee by majority vote, with at least four members voting.</i></div><div><br></div><div>That is the process we have always followed without problems. </div><div><br></div><div>Bill</div><div><div><div><div class="h5"><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Aug 5, 2015, at 6:45 PM, James Gannon <<a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net" target="_blank">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>> wrote:</div><br><div>With respect the NomCom role is a selection and not an election, it would be a fundamental change to the appointment of that role to change it to an election and certainly a change of that magnitude would need careful consideration that will not be possible before this years NomCom selection dates.<br><br>-James<br><br><blockquote type="cite">On 5 Aug 2015, at 17:35, Subrenat, Jean-Jacques <<a href="mailto:jjs@dyalog.net" target="_blank">jjs@dyalog.net</a>> wrote:<br><br>The discussion on this thread has underlined some of the difficulties that ICANN constituencies face in filling positions on the NomCom or other places where important personnel decisions are made. It has also drawn attention to the disparity between certain desirable features (regional, gender and other diversity requirements) and the current Bylaws, which highlight professional experience and personal qualities. Stepping back from the discussion regarding specific individuals, I would like to offer a practical suggestion, going forward.<br><br>For the time being, and as long as the Bylaws are not reviewed, we have to respect them, and proper process goes a long way towards ensuring clarity, fairness and efficiency. Pursuing the thoughts offered by Stephanie, Arun, Peter, Amr and others, I would suggest the following steps, which can all be taken in a fairly brief and simple way:<br>- the current Executive Council (EC) of NCUC sends out a call for candidates for the position of Delegate to the NomCom,<br>- this call is accompanied by a reminder of the relevant Bylaws, and of the desired criteria of NCUC (diversity, etc.),<br>- the EC calls a vote on the list of candidates who satisfy the criteria; all registered members of NCUC may vote,<br>- the individual garnering the most votes can then be appointed by NCUC.<br><br>By following this process, the responsibility of choice is placed on each registered member of the NCUC, who can then individually decide what priority she/he gives to various criteria such as diversity, experience, qualifications, and those spelled out in the current Bylaws. <br><br>Best regards,<br>Jean-Jacques.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>----- Mail original -----<br>De: "Stephanie Perrin" <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>><br>À: <a href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br>Envoyé: Mercredi 5 Août 2015 17:25:53<br>Objet: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC Delegate to the ICANN 2016<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>NominatingCommittee<br><br><br>Having kicked off what I thought was a useful discussion on this topic, I must apologize for sowing some confusion in my original post. The Nomcom seat is a selection not an election. I was, in this remark, "we need to ensure a lively, diverse field of candidates for all these positions, so that we are not fulfilling the criticism of not enough rotation of senior (travel-funded) positions in our constituency/stakeholder group" trying to encourage more folks to put their names forward for the upcoming elections, as well as being considered for Nomcom. Last year, we did not have many candidates for the GNSO, most were acclaimed, with the exception of the North American seat which both Sam and I were trying for. I think we have had similar problems getting folks to volunteer to chair and vice chair the policy committee, etc. <br>We also have a whole slate of comments coming up, and volunteers who want to become more active can by all means participate in those drafting exercises. More hands make light work. AS for helping members become more engaged in the working groups, several of us volunteered to monitor a skype channel for newbie support (where to go to ask all your questions during teleconferences, when you don't want to stick your hand up) but noone is using it. Please let me know if you want to join. <br>There are many barriers to participation, but we need to do something to share the work and help folks become more engaged day to day. Perhaps we don't use this list enough, a lot of discussion of policy takes place on the policy committee list, and if members of that committee don't reach out to their own regions and seek input, it really won't work as well. I appreciate Arun's comments below very much in this respect. <br>Kind regards, <br>Stephanie Perrin <br><br>On 2015-08-05 7:27, Remmy Nweke wrote: <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Thanks Arun for adding your voice to this subject. <br>Just wondering how to achieve your ideal delegation without prevailing opportunities which you and I know is much of the disadvantages facing developing regions including Africa and Asia among others. <br><br>No one is asking for pick and drop delegation if you have followed my comments. <br><br>In case you don't know, I have been lately on the executive board of Nigeria Internet Registration Association (NIRA) and on personal capacity a Lead Strategist at DigitalSENSE, organisers of the annual Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum on Internet Goivernance for Development (IG4D) and Nigeria Ipv6 Roundtable as much as frequent participant at ICANNs. <br><br>May be the attached profile will help you and like minds out. I am not new to the politics of ICANN and its associated groups. <br><br>The issue of restructuring NCUC guidelines on representation is not all about me or Africa, but enthroning a true NCUC representation begins with a step like the one we are taking now and fine-tune things as we progress. <br><br><br><br><br>Yet, there is need to speak out for those of us from various regions who felt 'marginalised' as far as this representation and delegations are concern. <br><br><br>@Peter Green <br><br>As much as Bill is eminently qualified, there are also others in the same circle including your sincerely based on the criteria outlined on the call. <br><br><br><br>Moving forward: <br>The other issue now is whether we should start the procedural restructuring on delegations now is what we need to decide promptly, because delayed justice is as good as justice denied. <br><br><br>So that whatever we arrived at that juncture will be seen as the consensus of NCUC, but not that of a few of us trying to maneuver things. <br><br><br><br>Thank God we have some two weeks to complete our inhouse deals and make submission from NCUC. <br><br><br>Regards <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>____ <br>REMMY NWEKE, Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor, <br>DigitalSENSE Africa Media Ltd [ Multiple-award winning medium ] <br>( DigitalSENSE Business News ; ITREALMS , NaijaAgroNet ) <br>Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos <br>M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms <br><br>Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria <br>NDSF 2016 <br>_________________________________________________________________ <br>*Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution. <br><br><br>On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Arun Mohan Sukumar < <a href="mailto:arunmohan.s@gmail.com" target="_blank">arunmohan.s@gmail.com</a> > wrote: <br><br><br><br>My two cents -- speaking personally, as I've moved from the national law university delhi and do not represent the organisation here.. <br><br><br>1. In principle, I strongly endorse Remmy's call for greater geographical diversity in NCUC nominating/appointed positions. Diversity by region should, however, not be an article of faith. The candidate's background must be weighed against her activity and participation in NCUC. Offering candidates from under-represented regions who rarely correspond or attend ICANN meetings does more disservice to the constituency that serve any real cause. <br><br><br>2. Diversity in regional representation is not necessarily correlated to diversity in perspective. If an NCUC representative from a developing region is beholden to the same set of entrenched, institutional interests, say as the ICANN Board and reluctant to challenge status quo, that would be worrisome. Personally, I would rather vote for or support individuals from developed countries offering sound criticism of ICANN policies. For e.g., IP Justice appears to be run by individuals from US and Europe, but I cannot appreciate enough their flagging of IPR concerns which matter enormously to countries, like India. <br><br><br>3. Diversity requirements should not be met by appointments/nominations alone but by populating the general ranks of the Constituency. The NCUC, in my limited interactions with the group, is far too inward looking and occupied with ICANN election politics or its (tough) battles with other SO/AC groups. It does not perform a satisfactory job of co-opting greater numbers from the developing world, and this responsibility lies squarely with NCUC leaders from this region. Any NCUC member who seeks an elected post on the claim of greater diversity ought to highlight her efforts in recruiting or spreading the word about NCUC from her region. Otherwise, it becomes a self-fulfilling exercise. <br><br><br>4. Diversity is a key requirement but just as sensitive is the job eligibility criteria. The ICANN NomCom role is clearly one that requires a strong network of global contacts, competencies in recruitment, and more importantly a willingness to engage contrasting perspectives. For these reasons, I support Bill's candidature to the NomCom. <br><br><br>Arun <br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Ncuc-discuss mailing list <a href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a> <a href="http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss" target="_blank">http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a> <br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Ncuc-discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss" target="_blank">http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a><br>_______________________________________________<br>Ncuc-discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss" target="_blank">http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a><br></blockquote><br>_______________________________________________<br>Ncuc-discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss" target="_blank">http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div><div>
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