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    Having kicked off what I thought was a useful discussion on this
    topic, I must apologize for sowing some confusion in my original
    post.  The Nomcom seat is a selection not an election.  I was, in
    this remark, "we need to ensure a lively, diverse field of
    candidates <big><b>for all these positions,</b></big> so that we
    are not fulfilling the criticism of not enough rotation of senior
    (travel-funded) positions in our constituency/stakeholder group" 
    trying to encourage more folks to put their names forward for the
    upcoming elections, as well as being considered for Nomcom.  Last
    year, we did not have many candidates for the GNSO, most were
    acclaimed, with the exception of the North American seat which both
    Sam and I were trying for.  I think we have had similar problems
    getting folks to volunteer to chair and vice chair the policy
    committee, etc.<br>
    We also have a whole slate of comments coming up, and volunteers who
    want to become more active can by all means participate in those
    drafting exercises.  More hands make light work.  AS for helping
    members become more engaged in the working groups, several of us
    volunteered to monitor a skype channel for newbie support (where to
    go to ask all your questions during teleconferences, when you don't
    want to stick your hand up) but noone is using it.  Please let me
    know if you want to join.<br>
    There are many barriers to participation, but we need to do
    something to share the work and help folks become more engaged day
    to day.  Perhaps we don't use this list enough, a lot of discussion
    of policy takes place on the policy committee list, and if members
    of that committee don't reach out to their own regions and seek
    input, it really won't work as well. I appreciate Arun's comments
    below very much in this respect. <br>
    Kind regards, <br>
    Stephanie Perrin<br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2015-08-05 7:27, Remmy Nweke wrote:<br>
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              <div>Thanks Arun for adding your voice to this subject.<br>
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              Just wondering how to achieve your ideal delegation
              without prevailing opportunities which you and I know is
              much of the disadvantages facing developing regions
              including Africa and Asia among others.<br>
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            No one is asking for pick and drop delegation if you have 
            followed my comments.<br>
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          In case you don't know, I have been lately on the executive
          board of Nigeria Internet Registration Association (NIRA) and
          on personal capacity a Lead Strategist at DigitalSENSE,
          organisers of the annual Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum on
          Internet Goivernance for Development (IG4D) and Nigeria Ipv6
          Roundtable as much as frequent participant at ICANNs. <br>
          <br>
          May be the attached profile will help you and like minds out.
          I am not new to the politics of ICANN and its associated
          groups.<br>
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        The issue of restructuring NCUC guidelines on representation is
        not all about me or Africa, but enthroning a true NCUC
        representation begins with a step like the one we are taking now
        and fine-tune things as we progress.<br>
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          <div class="gmail_extra">Yet, there is need to speak out for
            those of us from various regions who felt 'marginalised' as
            far as this representation and delegations are concern.<br>
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          <div class="gmail_extra">@Peter Green<br>
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          <div class="gmail_extra">As much as Bill is eminently
            qualified, there are also others in the same circle
            including your sincerely based on the criteria outlined on
            the call.<br>
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          <div class="gmail_extra">Moving forward:<br>
            The other issue now is whether we should start the <b>procedural
              restructuring on delegations</b> now is what we need to
            decide promptly, because delayed justice is as good as
            justice denied. <br>
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          <div class="gmail_extra">So that whatever we arrived at that
            juncture will be seen as the consensus of NCUC, but not that
            of a few of us trying to maneuver things.<br>
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          <div class="gmail_extra">Thank God we have some two weeks to
            complete our inhouse deals and make submission from NCUC.<br>
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          <div class="gmail_extra">Regards<br clear="all">
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 9:06 AM,
              Arun Mohan Sukumar <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                <div dir="ltr">My two cents -- speaking personally, as
                  I've moved from the national law university delhi and
                  do not represent the organisation here..
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                  <div>1. In principle, I strongly endorse Remmy's call
                    for greater geographical diversity in NCUC
                    nominating/appointed positions. Diversity by region
                    should, however, not be an article of faith. The
                    candidate's background must be weighed against her
                    activity and participation in NCUC. Offering
                    candidates from under-represented regions who rarely
                    correspond or attend ICANN meetings does more
                    disservice to the constituency that serve any real
                    cause.</div>
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                  <div>2. Diversity in regional representation is not
                    necessarily correlated to diversity in perspective.
                    If an NCUC representative from a developing region
                    is beholden to the same set of entrenched,
                    institutional interests, say as the ICANN Board and
                    reluctant to challenge status quo, that would be
                    worrisome. Personally, I would rather vote for or
                    support individuals from developed countries
                    offering sound criticism of ICANN policies. For
                    e.g., IP Justice appears to be run by individuals
                    from US and Europe, but I cannot appreciate enough
                    their flagging of IPR concerns which matter
                    enormously to countries, like India.</div>
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                  <div>3. Diversity requirements should not be met by
                    appointments/nominations alone but by populating the
                    general ranks of the Constituency. The NCUC, in my
                    limited interactions with the group, is far too
                    inward looking and occupied with ICANN election
                    politics or its (tough) battles with other SO/AC
                    groups. It does not perform a satisfactory job of
                    co-opting greater numbers from the developing world,
                    and this responsibility lies squarely with NCUC
                    leaders from this region. Any NCUC member who seeks
                    an elected post on the claim of greater diversity
                    ought to highlight her efforts in recruiting or
                    spreading the word about NCUC from her region.
                    Otherwise, it becomes a self-fulfilling exercise.</div>
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                  <div>4. Diversity is a key requirement but just as
                    sensitive is the job eligibility criteria. The ICANN
                    NomCom role is clearly one that requires a strong
                    network of global contacts, competencies in
                    recruitment, and more importantly a willingness to
                    engage contrasting perspectives. For these reasons,
                    I support Bill's candidature to the NomCom.</div>
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