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+1 Peter to your last point... I think we should try to figure out
what a fair, workable process would be, it may take a while and a
bit of discussion.<br>
SP<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2015-08-05 0:00, PeterGreen wrote:<br>
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<div><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Before indicating
my（standing as an individual NCUCer）support for
nominating Bill as the NCUC delegate for 2016
NomCom, I would like to repsond to several notable
points folks have made here:</span></div>
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<div><span style="color: rgb(210, 71, 38); font-size:
12pt;">Remmy Nweke：</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12pt;">{As much as you
[Bill] are eminently qualified among others, I
think its high time NCUC begin to consider its
delegation selection based on geographic diversity
as advised by the NomCom.</span></div>
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Historically, I think the NomCom knows why that advisory
on geographic diversity is important and a glance at
NCUC delegations in recent years cannot prove to be in
line with this.<br>
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May be we should come up with a rotational delegation to
cut across all continents, moreso, when no one is a bank
of knowledge. }<br>
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line-height: 20.82666778564453px;">Amr:</span></div>
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<div style="line-height: 20.82666778564453px; color: rgb(68, 68,
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background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="color:
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 微软雅黑, sans-serif; font-size:
16px; line-height: normal;">> Personally, considering the
greater diversity in NCUC’s membership (relative to other
groups within ICANN), I believe that regional diversity
should always be a priority for this constituency. This
should not be limited to leadership positions and other
constituency selection processes, but also in participation
in GNSO working groups where regional (such as African)
participation is most important. How can we achieve African
representation in our policy positions without African
interests being presented as part of the discussions by
those they affect the most?</span><br style="color: rgb(0,
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 微软雅黑,
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 微软雅黑,
sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal;">>
Having said that…, I’m not in favour of your proposal to
have rotational selection based on regions. NCUC has only
one appointee to the NomCom, and this appointment is too
important to forgo appointing the most appropriate
individual in favour of other criteria, no matter how
laudable the reasons may be.</span></div>
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font-size: 12pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><b><font
color="#444444">Agree with both Remmy and Amr that </font><font
color="#d24726">regional diversity</font><font
color="#444444"> is very important for NCUC the
Constituency and ICANN community, however, what makes me
to be inclined to echo Amr's point is that regional
diversiy should not only be limited to seleciton
processes. When we say regional diversity, especially in
this case--selecting a NCUC delegate for 2016 NomCom,
it is to say that NomCom would consider regional
diversity of its members for the whole NomCom structure,
it is not advising Stakeholder Groups or Constituencies
to select delegates on a special regional basis, </font></b></span><b
style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; line-height: 22.719999313354492px;">other
criteria should also be considered. </b><b style="color:
rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size:
12pt; line-height: 22.719999313354492px;">Saying so, I think
regional rotation is not appropiriate for a NomCom
Delegation selection. </b><span style="color: rgb(68, 68,
68); font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; line-height:
22.719999313354492px; font-size: 12pt;"><b>Please note the
following :</b></span></div>
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font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="line-height:
22.719999313354492px; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif;">Specific criteria for selecting a
delegate to the NomCom is provided in Article VII, Section
4 of ICANN’s Bylaws (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.icann.org/en/about/governance/bylaws#VII"
target="_blank" style="font-weight: inherit; color:
rgb(149, 79, 114); cursor: pointer;"><span style="color:
blue;">http://www.icann.org/en/about/governance/bylaws#VII</span></a>)</span><span
style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"></span></li>
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<div style="line-height: 20.82666778564453px; color: rgb(68, 68,
68); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color:
rgb(255, 255, 255);"><font size="3"><span style="line-height:
17.040000915527344px; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> </span><b><span
style="line-height: 18.933332443237305px; font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif;">“Section 4. CRITERIA FOR SELECTION
OF NOMINATING COMMITTEE DELEGATES</span></b><span
style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"></span></font></div>
<div style="line-height: 16.5pt; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255);"><font size="3"><span style="line-height:
20.82666778564453px;"><span style="line-height:
18.933332443237305px; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">Delegates
to the ICANN Nominating Committee shall be:</span></span><span
style="line-height: 20.82666778564453px; font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif;"></span></font></div>
<div style="line-height: 16.5pt; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255);"><font size="3"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
name="VII-4.1" target="_blank" style="line-height:
20.82666778564453px; font-weight: inherit; color: rgb(0,
104, 207); cursor: pointer;"></a><span style="line-height:
20.82666778564453px;"><span style="line-height:
18.933332443237305px; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">1.
Accomplished persons of integrity, objectivity, and
intelligence, with reputations for sound judgment and
open minds, and with experience and competence with
collegial large group decision-making;</span></span><span
style="line-height: 20.82666778564453px; font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif;"></span></font></div>
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255, 255);"><font size="3"><span style="line-height:
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</span></span></font></div>
<div style="line-height: 16.5pt; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255);"><font size="3"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
name="VII-4.2" target="_blank" style="line-height:
20.82666778564453px; font-weight: inherit; color: rgb(0,
104, 207); cursor: pointer;"></a><span style="line-height:
20.82666778564453px;"><span style="line-height:
18.933332443237305px; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">2.
Persons with wide contacts, broad experience in the
Internet community, and a commitment to the success of
ICANN;</span></span><span style="line-height:
20.82666778564453px; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"></span></font></div>
<div style="line-height: 16.5pt; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255);"><font size="3"><span style="line-height:
20.82666778564453px;"><span style="line-height:
18.933332443237305px; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><br>
</span></span></font></div>
<div style="line-height: 16.5pt; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255);"><font size="3"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
name="VII-4.3" target="_blank" style="line-height:
20.82666778564453px; font-weight: inherit; color: rgb(0,
104, 207); cursor: pointer;"></a><span style="line-height:
20.82666778564453px;"><span style="line-height:
18.933332443237305px; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">3.
Persons whom the selecting body is confident will
consult widely and accept input in carrying out their
responsibilities;</span></span><span style="line-height:
20.82666778564453px; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"></span></font></div>
<div style="line-height: 16.5pt; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255);"><font size="3"><span style="line-height:
20.82666778564453px;"><span style="line-height:
18.933332443237305px; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><br>
</span></span></font></div>
<div style="line-height: 16.5pt; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255);"><font size="3"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
name="VII-4.4" target="_blank" style="line-height:
20.82666778564453px; font-weight: inherit; color: rgb(0,
104, 207); cursor: pointer;"></a><span style="line-height:
20.82666778564453px;"><span style="line-height:
18.933332443237305px; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">4.
Persons who are neutral and objective, without any fixed
personal commitments to particular individuals,
organizations, or commercial objectives in carrying out
their Nominating Committee responsibilities;</span></span><span
style="line-height: 20.82666778564453px; font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif;"></span></font></div>
<div style="line-height: 16.5pt; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255,
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</span></span></font></div>
<div style="line-height: 16.5pt; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255);"><font size="3"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
name="VII-4.5" target="_blank" style="line-height:
20.82666778564453px; font-weight: inherit; color: rgb(0,
104, 207); cursor: pointer;"></a><span style="line-height:
20.82666778564453px;"><span style="line-height:
18.933332443237305px; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">5.
Persons with an understanding of ICANN's mission and the
potential impact of ICANN's activities on the broader
Internet community who are willing to serve as
volunteers, without compensation other than the
reimbursement of certain expenses; and</span></span><span
style="line-height: 20.82666778564453px; font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif;"></span></font></div>
<div style="line-height: 16.5pt; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255);"><font size="3"><span style="line-height:
20.82666778564453px;"><span style="line-height:
18.933332443237305px; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><br>
</span></span></font></div>
<div style="line-height: 16.5pt; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255);"><font size="3"><span style="font-weight: inherit;"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" name="VII-4.6" target="_blank"
style="line-height: 20.82666778564453px; font-weight:
inherit; color: rgb(0, 104, 207); cursor: pointer;"></a></span><span
style="line-height: 20.82666778564453px;"><span
style="line-height: 18.933332443237305px; font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif;">6. Persons who are able to work and
communicate in written and spoken English.”</span></span></font><span
style="line-height: 20.82666778564453px; font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"></span></div>
<div style="line-height: 12.75pt; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span
style="line-height: 22.719999313354492px; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> </span><span
style="line-height: 20.82666778564453px; font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif;"></span></div>
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font-size: 12pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">NomCom
delegates should have a high level network of contacts
essential to candidate recruitment (and we hope the NCUC)
- as sending entity will support your delegate and help
them with outreach).</span><span style="line-height:
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255);">
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sans-serif;"><span style="line-height: 22.719999313354492px;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">Eligibility
Exception - No person who is an employee of or paid
consultant to ICANN (including the Ombudsman) shall
simultaneously serve in any of the Nominating Committee
positions as described in Article VII, Section 2 of
ICANN’s Bylaws (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/bylaws-2012-02-25-en#VII-2"
target="_blank" style="font-weight: inherit; color:
rgb(149, 79, 114); cursor: pointer;"><span style="color:
blue;">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/bylaws-2012-02-25-en#VII-2</span></a>).</span><span
style="line-height: 20.82666778564453px; font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif;"></span></li>
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sans-serif;"><span style="line-height: 22.719999313354492px;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">The
person should be able to join monthly teleconferences
(typically 13:00 or 14:00 UTC). Note that the committee's
workload <u>will increase</u><span
class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span>significantly
during Apr/May/June 2016 when the candidate assessment
process will be at its busiest. Conference calls are held
more frequently (typically weekly) during this time as
well.</span><span style="line-height: 20.82666778564453px;
font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"></span></li>
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sans-serif;"><span style="line-height: 22.719999313354492px;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">The
person must be able to attend the NomCom selection meeting
in late June 2016. </span><span style="line-height:
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font-size: 12pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">The
person should be willing to work in a large,
consensus-oriented committee.</span><span
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color="#d24726" face="Tahoma, sans-serif"><span
style="line-height: 22.719999313354492px;">Stephanie:</span></font></div>
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255, 255);"><font face="Tahoma, sans-serif"><span
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<div>> While I have already indicated my support for Bill,
may I also suggest, <br>
> as a tired multiple commentator on the Westlake GNSO
review, that we <br>
> need to ensure a lively, diverse field of candidates for
all these <br>
> positions, so that we are not fulfilling the criticism of
not enough <br>
> rotation of senior (travel-funded) positions in our <br>
> constituency/stakeholder group. I suspect no one will
want to run <br>
> against Bill, but we do need to have elections, not
acclamations.<br>
> <br>
> Kind regards,<br>
> Stephanie<br>
> <br>
<br>
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<div><b style="font-size: 12pt;">Yes, for transparency，I propose
we need a procedural selection process now.</b></div>
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<div>Best Regards</div>
<div>Peter </div>
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