Thanks Amr<div>In my suggestion I did not imply only for NomCom positions but every representation of NCUC likewise others within ICANN.</div><div><br></div><div>If you have followed NCUC history you will understand my position and except we encourage regional rotation of delegations across board since they are tenure based, we will continue to lament on poor representation or entirely lack of representation by some regions of the world while we claim that ICANN which is our umbrella body systematically favor some regions in its mission and omissions.</div><div><br></div><div>I have taken this up previously with Fade and the understanble response was that it must start from constituents or groups within the ICANN family and transcend to the larger family.</div><div><br></div><div>And commencing the needed change of inclusiveness or expanded inclusiveness with NCUC will not be bad idea, otherwise we especially from the "marginalized" by the structure we belong to and strive to protect will remain as marginalized as ever.</div><div><br></div><div>One other thing I think we may do despite that some of us are well qualified is that we must build capacity of others too to maintain the kind of engagement deserved for non commercial users across the globe. </div><div><br></div><div>What are we doing about it is another question? May be you revisit Stephanie mail earlier and the one from NomCom which was specific on geographic diversity of delegations.<br><br>Without making reference to any particular person or persons who have paid their dues as far as ICANN is concerned, we must look beyond regional advantage to some of us in other to carry most often others along and progress beyond the politrick and overwhelming advantage to some of us, from advanced regions.</div><div><br></div><div>I rest my case for now.</div><div><br></div><div>Remmy Nweke</div><div><br>On Tuesday, August 4, 2015, Amr Elsadr <<a href="mailto:aelsadr@egyptig.org">aelsadr@egyptig.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Remmy,<br>
<br>
Personally, considering the greater diversity in NCUC’s membership (relative to other groups within ICANN), I believe that regional diversity should always be a priority for this constituency. This should not be limited to leadership positions and other constituency selection processes, but also in participation in GNSO working groups where regional (such as African) participation is most important. How can we achieve African representation in our policy positions without African interests being presented as part of the discussions by those they affect the most?<br>
<br>
Having said that…, I’m not in favour of your proposal to have rotational selection based on regions. NCUC has only one appointee to the NomCom, and this appointment is too important to forgo appointing the most appropriate individual in favour of other criteria, no matter how laudable the reasons may be.<br>
<br>
I will note that there has been an African representing the NCUC on the NomCom immediately prior to our current NomCom representative. Furthermore, the NCUC has regionally elected officers to the NCUC executive committee (EC), for which we have elections every year. In addition, the NCUC EC, not too long ago, selected an African member as the beneficiary of the NCUC travel policy. In this respect, I believe (and please correct me if I am mistaken) we are unique in the GNSO. I don’t think it is just to say that Africa has been under-represented by our constituency.<br>
<br>
What I would personally like to see is our future regional EC members (including from Africa) do a better job at fulfilling some of their duties as per the NCUC bylaws (check section IV/D/4 of the NCUC bylaws at <a href="http://www.ncuc.org/governance/bylaws/" target="_blank">http://www.ncuc.org/governance/bylaws/</a>):<br>
<br>
> Ensure that members from their region are made aware of and respond to calls for comments by members of the Policy Committee on Working Group and other Council and other ICANN policy development activities. Regional Representatives must provide a reply to all such requests from the Policy Committee.<br>
<br>
<br>
Although the bylaws are not as updated as they should be, that doesn’t change the sentiment regarding what elected regional EC members should be doing for members from their respective regions. Instead of suggesting regional rotation rules for NomCom appointees, maybe what we should be doing is focusing more on how our diverse membership could engage more effectively from the bottom-up in a process where the bottom layer is the most crucial.<br>
<br>
Just my personal thoughts.<br>
<br>
Thanks.<br>
<br>
Amr<br>
<br>
> On Aug 4, 2015, at 7:12 PM, Remmy Nweke <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'remmyn@GMAIL.COM')">remmyn@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Thanks Stephanie,<br>
> That is the same point I just made too, even if it means rotational delegation structure, NCUC could come up with.<br>
> Frankly speaking in NCUC history, Africa for instance has been under-represented alongside others.<br>
> A rethink is most welcome.<br>
> Remmy Nweke<br>
><br>
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> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Stephanie Perrin <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca')">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
> While I have already indicated my support for Bill, may I also suggest, as a tired multiple commentator on the Westlake GNSO review, that we need to ensure a lively, diverse field of candidates for all these positions, so that we are not fulfilling the criticism of not enough rotation of senior (travel-funded) positions in our constituency/stakeholder group. I suspect noone will want to run against Bill, but we do need to have elections, not acclamations.<br>
><br>
> Kind regards,<br>
> Stephanie<br>
><br>
> On 2015-08-04 12:44, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote:<br>
> Many thanks to Brenden for a great Job!<br>
><br>
> Wolfgang<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<br>
> Von: <a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'ncuc-discuss-bounces@lists.ncuc.org')">ncuc-discuss-bounces@lists.ncuc.org</a> im Auftrag von Anriette Esterhuysen<br>
> Gesendet: Di 04.08.2015 16:37<br>
> An: <a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org')">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br>
> Betreff: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC Delegate to the ICANN 2016 NominatingCommittee<br>
> Dear Bill<br>
><br>
> Who has played this role in the past? I recall Adam has, and of course<br>
> Brenden. And once Karen Banks from APC did too.. a long time ago :)<br>
><br>
> Why don't you take this on? Will you have time?<br>
><br>
> Anriette<br>
> APC<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 04/08/2015 16:08, William Drake wrote:<br>
><br>
> Begin forwarded message:<br>
><br>
> *From: *Joette Youkhanna <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'joette.youkhanna@icann.org')">joette.youkhanna@icann.org</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'joette.youkhanna@icann.org')">joette.youkhanna@icann.org</a>>><br>
> *Subject: **Non-Commercial Users Constituency Delegate to the ICANN<br>
> 2016 Nominating Committee*<br>
> *Date: *August 4, 2015 at 12:37:33 AM GMT+2<br>
> *To: *William Drake <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'william.drake@uzh.ch')">william.drake@uzh.ch</a> <mailto:<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'william.drake@uzh.ch')">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>>><br>
> *Cc: *"Stephane Van Gelder (<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'svg@milathan.com')">svg@milathan.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'svg@milathan.com')">svg@milathan.com</a>>)" <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'svg@milathan.com')">svg@milathan.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'svg@milathan.com')">svg@milathan.com</a>>>, "Ron Andruff (RA@ONRconsulting.com<br>
> <mailto:<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'RA@ONRconsulting.com')">RA@ONRconsulting.com</a>>)" <RA@ONRconsulting.com<br>
> <mailto:<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'RA@ONRconsulting.com')">RA@ONRconsulting.com</a>>>, Cheryl Langdon-Orr<br>
> <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'langdonorr@gmail.com')">langdonorr@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'langdonorr@gmail.com')">langdonorr@gmail.com</a>>>, Marika Konings<br>
> <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'marika.konings@icann.org')">marika.konings@icann.org</a> <mailto:<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'marika.konings@icann.org')">marika.konings@icann.org</a>>>, "Jia-Juh<br>
> Kimoto" <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'jiajuh.kimoto@icann.org')">jiajuh.kimoto@icann.org</a> <mailto:<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'jiajuh.kimoto@icann.org')">jiajuh.kimoto@icann.org</a>>><br>
><br>
> Dear Bill,<br>
> This email is sent on behalf of the 2016 Nominating Committee (NomCom)<br>
> Chair, still to be appointed by the ICANN Board of Directors and ask<br>
> that the stakeholder groups and constituencies of the Generic Names<br>
> Supporting Organization (GNSO) select a delegates to join the 2016<br>
> NomCom. Brenden Kuerbis (NCUC delegate) served on the 2014 and 2015<br>
> NomComs and is not eligible to serve another term.<br>
> The composition of the NomCom is outlined in Article VII, Section 2.<br>
> Composition of ICANN's Bylaws:<br>
> (<a href="http://www.icann.org/en/about/governance/bylaws#VII" target="_blank">http://www.icann.org/en/about/governance/bylaws#VII</a>)<br>
> */"Section 2. COMPOSITION/*<br>
> /The Nominating Committee shall be composed of the following persons:/<br>
> /1. A non-voting Chair, appointed by the ICANN Board;/<br>
> /2. A non-voting Chair-Elect, appointed by the ICANN Board as a<br>
> non-voting advisor;/<br>
> /3. A non-voting liaison appointed by the ICANN Root Server System<br>
> Advisory Committee established by Article XI of these Bylaws<br>
> <<a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/bylaws-2012-02-25-en#XI-2.3" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/bylaws-2012-02-25-en#XI-2.3</a>>;/<br>
> /4. A non-voting liaison appointed by the ICANN Security and Stability<br>
> Advisory Committee established by Article XI of these Bylaws<br>
> <<a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/bylaws-2012-02-25-en#XI-2.2" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/bylaws-2012-02-25-en#XI-2.2</a>>;/<br>
> /5. A non-voting liaison appointed by the Governmental Advisory<br>
> Committee<br>
> <<a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/bylaws-2012-02-25-en#XI-2.1" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/bylaws-2012-02-25-en#XI-2.1</a>>;/<br>
> /6. Subject to the provisions of the Transition Article of these<br>
> Bylaws, five voting delegates selected by the At-Large Advisory<br>
> Committee established by Article XI of these Bylaws<br>
> <<a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/bylaws-2012-02-25-en#XI-2.4" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/bylaws-2012-02-25-en#XI-2.4</a>>;/<br>
> /7. Voting delegates to the Nominating Committee shall be selected<br>
> from the Generic Names Supporting Organization, established by Article<br>
> X of these Bylaws<br>
> <<a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/bylaws-2012-02-25-en#X-5.3" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/bylaws-2012-02-25-en#X-5.3</a>>, as<br>
> follows:/<br>
> /a. One delegate from the Registries Stakeholder Group;/<br>
> /b. One delegate from the Registrars Stakeholder Group;/<br>
> /c. Two delegates from the Business Constituency, one representing<br>
> small business users and one representing large business users;/<br>
> /d. One delegate from the Internet Service Providers Constituency;/<br>
> /e. One delegate from the Intellectual Property Constituency; and/<br>
> /f. One delegate from consumer and civil society groups, selected by<br>
> the Non-Commercial Users Constituency./<br>
> /8. One voting delegate each selected by the following entities:/<br>
> /a. The Council of the Country Code Names Supporting Organization<br>
> established by Article IX of these Bylaws<br>
> <<a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/bylaws-2012-02-25-en#IX" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/bylaws-2012-02-25-en#IX</a>>;/<br>
> /b. The Council of the Address Supporting Organization established<br>
> by Article VIII of these Bylaws<br>
> <<a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/bylaws-2012-02-25-en#VIII" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/bylaws-2012-02-25-en#VIII</a>>; and/<br>
> /c. The Internet Engineering Task Force./<br>
> /9. A non-voting Associate Chair, who may be appointed by the Chair,<br>
> at his or her sole discretion, to serve during all or part of the term<br>
> of the Chair. The Associate Chair may not be a person who is otherwise<br>
> a member of the same Nominating Committee. The Associate Chair shall<br>
> assist the Chair in carrying out the duties of the Chair, but shall<br>
> not serve, temporarily or otherwise, in the place of the Chair."/<br>
> We would be grateful if you could make your selection as soon as<br>
> possible, but no later than *Friday, 21 August 2015*.<br>
> We hope service on the NomCom will be interesting and rewarding. The<br>
> 2016 NomCom will select 3 Directors of the ICANN Board, 2 members of<br>
> the ALAC, 1 member of the GNSO Council, and 1 member of the ccNSO<br>
> Council.<br>
> All 2016 NomCom members should be able to attend the first formal<br>
> meeting of the 2016 NomCom in Dublin, Ireland which is anticipated to<br>
> be held at the conclusion of the ICANN 54 meeting, 18 - 22<br>
> October 2015. Travel and hotel accommodation will be provided.<br>
> Please note the following as you select and appoint your delegate to<br>
> the 2016 NomCom:<br>
><br>
> * Specific criteria for selecting a delegate to the NomCom is<br>
> provided in Article VII, Section 4 of ICANN's Bylaws<br>
> (<a href="http://www.icann.org/en/about/governance/bylaws#VII" target="_blank">http://www.icann.org/en/about/governance/bylaws#VII</a>)<br>
><br>
><br>
> *"Section 4. CRITERIA FOR SELECTION OF NOMINATING COMMITTEE DELEGATES*<br>
> /Delegates to the ICANN Nominating Committee shall be:/<br>
> /1. Accomplished persons of integrity, objectivity, and intelligence,<br>
> with reputations for sound judgment and open minds, and with<br>
> experience and competence with collegial large group decision-making;/<br>
> /2. Persons with wide contacts, broad experience in the Internet<br>
> community, and a commitment to the success of ICANN;/<br>
> /3. Persons whom the selecting body is confident will consult widely<br>
> and accept input in carrying out their responsibilities;/<br>
> /4. Persons who are neutral and objective, without any fixed personal<br>
> commitments to particular individuals, organizations, or commercial<br>
> objectives in carrying out their Nominating Committee responsibilities;/<br>
> /5. Persons with an understanding of ICANN's mission and the potential<br>
> impact of ICANN's activities on the broader Internet community who are<br>
> willing to serve as volunteers, without compensation other than the<br>
> reimbursement of certain expenses; and/<br>
> /6. Persons who are able to work and communicate in written and spoken<br>
> English."/<br>
><br>
> * NomCom delegates should have a high level network of contacts<br>
> essential to candidate recruitment (and we hope the NCUC) - as<br>
> sending entity will support your delegate and help them with<br>
> outreach).<br>
><br>
> * Eligibility Exception - No person who is an employee of or paid<br>
> consultant to ICANN (including the Ombudsman) shall simultaneously<br>
> serve in any of the Nominating Committee positions as described in<br>
> Article VII, Section 2 of ICANN's Bylaws<br>
> (<a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/bylaws-2012-02-25-en#VII-2" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/bylaws-2012-02-25-en#VII-2</a>).<br>
><br>
> * The person should be able to join monthly teleconferences<br>
> (typically 13:00 or 14:00 UTC). Note that the committee's<br>
> workload _will increase_ significantly during Apr/May/June 2016<br>
> when the candidate assessment process will be at its busiest.<br>
> Conference calls are held more frequently (typically weekly)<br>
> during this time as well.<br>
><br>
> * The person must be able to attend the NomCom selection meeting in<br>
> late June 2016.<br>
><br>
> * The person should be willing to work in a large,<br>
> consensus-oriented committee.<br>
><br>
> The NomCom have _guideline<br>
> <<a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/2015-guidelines-2014-11-14-en" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/2015-guidelines-2014-11-14-en</a>>_ and _procedure<br>
> <<a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/2015-procedures-2014-11-14-en" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/2015-procedures-2014-11-14-en</a>>_ documents<br>
> for reference that provide additional information about the work of<br>
> the NomCom.<br>
> Please consider geographic diversity of the NomCom when making your<br>
> selection of delegate.<br>
> We would appreciate your acknowledging receipt of this message, and<br>
> please send the name of the NCUC delegate no later than Friday, 21<br>
> August 2015 to NomCom Staff Support, Joette Youkhanna<br>
> at: <a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'joette.youkhanna@icann.org')">joette.youkhanna@icann.org</a> <mailto:<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'joette.youkhanna@icann.org')">joette.youkhanna@icann.org</a>> and<br>
> Jia Kimoto at: <a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'jia-juh.kimoto@icann.org')">jia-juh.kimoto@icann.org</a> <mailto:<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'jia-juh.kimoto@icann.org')">jia-juh.kimoto@icann.org</a>>.<br>
> Many thanks in advance for helping the 2016 NomCom get off to a good<br>
> start!<br>
> Warm regards,<br>
> Stephane Van Gelder, Chair - 2015 NomCom<br>
> Ron Andruff, Chair Elect - 2015 NomCom<br>
> Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Associate Chair - 2015 NomCom<br>
> -------<br>
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> Jia Kimoto<br>
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> <mailto:<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'wjdrake@gmail.com')">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>> (lists),<br>
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