<div dir="ltr">Greg, thanks for the annotations. <div><br></div><div>On the second part, i must claim mea culpa - the section which talked about the PTI/ICANN relationship is what has been discussed here, which got mixed up with our response to the CWG. (it's still useful for this group!) Let me send the doc on membership liability separately. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 1:52 AM, Edward Morris <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:egmorris1@toast.net" target="_blank">egmorris1@toast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Thanks for doing this Greg. Amongst other things I believe this illustrates the difficulty many lawyers and lawyers-to- be have in analysing law and offering advice outside their areas and jurisdictions of expertise. It is something we need to keep in mind as we plot ways forward in the CCWG relying upon the advice of our fine American counsel. Every now and then we might want to stop and do a reality check to ensure we really are taking into consideration the legal needs of our non-American volunteers and the international internet community. Despite best efforts this well intentioned report illustrates the difficulty of "practicing" law outside of one's own country.<div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Ed</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 5:26 AM, Greg Shatan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I've now read and analyzed this memo carefully. Regrettably, its conclusions are fundamentally incorrect. Please see the annotated copy attached. Specifically, there is no potential that "exposes members [of ICANN] to legal liability" based on the "corporate veil" analysis cited in the memo. Further, and as noted in the attached, I would reject the "fundamental bylaw" analysis as well. This may be irrelevant given our shift in direction, but having considered the memo, I did not want it floating around as a potentially legitimate source of analysis.</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I would have liked to praise the memo, but unfortunately I have to suggest we bury it.</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Finally, with regard to the power of members to approve bylaws, this is clearly set forth in Section 5150(b): "<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif">Bylaws may be adopted, amended or repealed by approval of </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif">members." Any confusion otherwise was based on the misbegotten idea that the "ultimate authority of the board" applies even to members.</span></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:12pt;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(23,54,93)">Gregory S. Shatan </span></b><b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(23,54,93)">ï</span></b><b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(23,54,93)"> </span></b><b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(192,80,77)">Abelman
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Arun Sukumar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:arun.sukumar@nludelhi.ac.in" target="_blank">arun.sukumar@nludelhi.ac.in</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hello all,<div><br></div><div>Please find attached a memo/primer from the National Law University, New Delhi explaining the idea of Fundamental Bylaws and examining its basis in California law. The document also has some research on what's known in some jurisdictions as courts "lifting the corporate veil", an action that potentially exposes members to legal liability. </div><div><br></div><div>Hope this is useful to those who are following the CCWG's work. This is simply to supplement the legal advice CCWG is getting from both law firms.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Arun<span><font color="#888888"><span><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">-<div>@<a href="http://www.twitter.com/arunmsukumar" target="_blank">arunmsukumar</a></div><div>Senior Fellow, <a href="http://www.ccgdelhi.org" target="_blank">Centre for Communication Governance</a></div><div>National Law University, New Delhi</div><div>Ph: <a href="tel:%2B91-9871943272" value="+919871943272" target="_blank">+91-9871943272</a></div></div></div></div></div>
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