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    I think it is a good idea not to put Camino in a difficult
    position.  Life is likely tough for her now Michael is gone....but
    we could definitely ask her.  I also think it is not a great idea to
    associate this initiative too heavily with the EC.  IS there anyone
    else from outside Europe who would be good?<br>
    Stephanie<br>
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      <div class="">As I said, I’ve invited Camino before and she felt
        like she couldn’t leave the GAC meeting.  I also sensed she was
        reluctant to ‘go on record’ with any view given the internal
        difficulties of the EU in reaching consensus.  But ok I can ask
        again.
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        <div class="">Bill<br class="">
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                <div class="">On Jan 29, 2015, at 7:45 PM, Edward Morris
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                  <div dir="ltr" class="">+1. An excellent idea. Camino
                    is a potent and potential, willing, ally on a number
                    of issues we hold dear. Definitely someone we should
                    exchange ideas with in the hope of future
                    collaboration. 
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                          <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 29, 2015
                            at 6:07 PM, Robin Gross <span dir="ltr"
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                              <div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Let's
                                invite Camino Manjon from the EC.  She
                                is very approachable and attentive to
                                many of the concerns that we have, for
                                example human rights issues.  If it
                                isn't possible for Singy, then possibly
                                BA.  Just a thought.
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                                <div class="">Thanks,</div>
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                                      <div class="">On Jan 29, 2015, at
                                        4:55 AM, Marilia Maciel wrote:</div>
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                                          Bill, 
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                                          <div class="">Two topics
                                            besides those you proposed:
                                            <div class="">- Your
                                              suggestions of a NCPH
                                              session on Friday in
                                              Buenos Aires</div>
                                            <div class="">- How to
                                              prepare a more substantial
                                              discussion on public
                                              interest for BA and how to
                                              strategically connect it
                                              (not conflate it) with HR,
                                              if we agree this is
                                              pertinent.</div>
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                                            <div class="">Just a thought
                                              on transition: is there
                                              anyone we call in addition
                                              to NTIA to discuss the
                                              topic with us? We heard
                                              from them many times... Is
                                              there any polarisation,
                                              any diversity of views
                                              that we could discuss? I
                                              believe MM will be there
                                              to make things fun and
                                              lively but it could be
                                              nice to have an additional
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                                                  Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at
                                                  9:34 AM, William Drake
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                                                      <div class="">Current
                                                        news on two big
                                                        time sensitive
                                                        work streams
                                                        NCUC/SG people
                                                        are much
                                                        involved in can
                                                        be found from <a
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target="_blank" class="">https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability</a>. 
                                                        I have invited
                                                        Larry Strickling
                                                        and Fiona
                                                        Alexander from
                                                        the US NTIA to
                                                        meet with us and
                                                        discuss these
                                                        crucial issues
                                                        during NCUC’s
                                                         Tuesday 10
                                                        February
                                                        Constituency Day
                                                        meeting in
                                                        Singapore.  It’d
                                                        be good for us
                                                        to be well
                                                        prepared for
                                                        that meeting and
                                                        leverage the
                                                        opportunity to
                                                        press our
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                                                      <div class="">I’m
                                                        at another
                                                        meeting and
                                                        awaiting
                                                        relevant replies
                                                        from others so I
                                                        won’t be able to
                                                        post a final
                                                        Constituency Day
                                                        agenda for a
                                                        couple more
                                                        days.  If anyone
                                                        has any
                                                        suggestions of
                                                        items we might
                                                        try to fit into
                                                        the agenda,
                                                        please do let me
                                                        know.  We will
                                                        certainly devote
                                                        a little time to
                                                        the rebooting of
                                                        the  Membership
                                                        Affairs Team and
                                                        the discussion
                                                        about enhancing
                                                        member
                                                        engagement. 
                                                        Beyond this, we
                                                        have some wiggle
                                                        room to focus on
                                                        other items that
                                                        won’t be covered
                                                        in the NCSG
                                                        Policy Committee
                                                        and membership
                                                        meetings.  The
                                                        Cross Community
                                                        WG on Internet
                                                        Governance and
                                                        related
                                                        processes (e.g.
                                                        the progress of
                                                        the still
                                                        problematic
                                                        NMInitiative)
                                                        might logical
                                                        choices.</div>
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          Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ<br class="">
          University of Zurich, Switzerland<br class="">
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