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1. they have been doing great work and we need their help in future<br>
2. We should try not to be so last minute...sometimes when you
agree to last minute it is useful to say "dont ask for last minute
the next time. we will have to turn it down on principle but we are
happy to do it this time."<br>
3. What meetings is he missing that you wanted him
at...accountability is the biggie in my view, maybe Gabrielle could
proxy for him on the phone...ditto for public forum (where he will
be missed)<br>
Stephanie<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14-10-01 3:36 PM, William Drake
wrote:<br>
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<div>We have a request for support to cover a plane trip to LA
from Niels at Article 19. As you know, Niels and his colleague
Gabrielle have been quite active since joining NCUC a few months
back, having taken the lead on drafting a couple NCSG policy
statements including most recently the response to the Council
of Europe human rights paper. There will be a number of
follow-up HR discussions in LA, including in the NCUC and NCSG
constituency day meetings, a GAC meeting, and (if meeting staff
can accommodate with space) a proposed cross-community meeting.
As such, I’d think it’d be good for our efforts if Niels could
be there, and as we discussed in Istanbul, while it’s too late
to do the whole formalized application process, we could
consider offering ad hoc support as we have in the past. </div>
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<div>Problem is, at this late date, prices are high, plus he’s
looking for a funky itinerary, coming from Sao Paulo to LA and
then back home to Amsterdam. He’s also proposing to leave a tad
early, on the Thursday, so missing the meetings on
accountability, IANA, and the Public Forum. 1,814.30 GBP =
$2,935.33 USD, a thousand more than we are offering as of the
Marrakech meeting. </div>
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<div>So we have 4 options: say 1) sorry no; 2) yes ok; 3) ok but a
bit less than asked, like $2,500; or 4) $2,000 as we announced.
In the latter two, ask if A19 can’t pick up the difference (in
addition to his hotel and other costs). We could of course ask
that the standard requirements we set out be met, e.g.
participating in all activities, writing a blog about what
happened at the meeting of relevance to NCUC, etc.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It’s worth noting that in the past we didn’t set a $2,000
limit, and have covered people serving on the NCSG EC or in
other capacities in the $3,000 range. So it while it’s a bit
high, it wouldn’t be unprecedented.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>What do people think? In any event we should give him an
answer soon, the meeting’s starting in ten days.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Best,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Bill</div>
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1.0);"><b>From: </b></span><span
style="font-family:'Helvetica';">Niels ten Oever <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:niels@article19.org">niels@article19.org</a>><br>
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1.0);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span
style="font-family:'Helvetica';"><b>Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS]
Announcement: New NCUC Travel Support Policy</b><br>
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1.0);"><b>Date: </b></span><span
style="font-family:'Helvetica';">October 1, 2014 at
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style="font-family:'Helvetica';">William Drake <<a
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Dear Bill,<br>
<br>
I got a flight option for my itinerary for 1814.30 British
Pound (see<br>
below). Article19 will pick up the costs for hotel and the
rest. Would<br>
that be OK ?<br>
<br>
I would like to attend ICANN LA to work on mainstreaming
Human Rights<br>
in ICANN by a) furthering the process around establishing
a cross<br>
community working group in ICANN on Human Rights, which
could<br>
eventually lead to the establishment of a Human Rights
Advisory<br>
Council. This is a process which started with the release
of the<br>
report of the council of Europe and which we supported by
co-drafting<br>
the NCSG comments on this report. At the ICANN LA meeting
there will<br>
be about meeting about this.<br>
<br>
Furthermore I will work on making a Network Map of
stakeholders in<br>
NCUC and NCSG to improve the engagement of new users. This
process<br>
will lead to the implementation and usage of new tools to
make is<br>
easier for new users to engage in the policy processes. I
am working<br>
on this with Rafik and Heather Leason.<br>
<br>
Looking forward to hear from you so I can confirm my
ticket so the<br>
price won't get even higher.<br>
<br>
Let me know if you have any questions or comments.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Niels<br>
<br>
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On 09/28/2014 09:56 AM, William Drake wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hi<br>
<br>
The new open call process doesn’t begin until next year
but we can <br>
take proposals on an ad hoc basis, why not. Send me a
message<br>
laying out why you should be there (copying below) plus
with<br>
specific cost elements, flight and cheap hotel. The
closer you can<br>
get to the $2,000 range the better. Your intended
itinerary sounds<br>
bloody expensive. Can A19 make up the difference?<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
BD<br>
<br>
On Sep 27, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Niels ten Oever <<a
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href="mailto:niels@article19.org">niels@article19.org</a>>
<br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
Hi Bill,<br>
<br>
I hope this email finds you well. I would like to apply
for travel<br>
support for the LA meeting if that would still be
possible.<br>
<br>
The main reasons for me to attend are the follow-up
meetings around<br>
the Council of Europe report (on which we co-authored
the<br>
comments for the NCSG) and the potential establishment
of the Human<br>
Rights Advisory Council. Next to that I am working with
Rafik (with<br>
support from Heather Leason and Brenden Kuerbis) on
improving<br>
information flows in the NCSG. For this I will start
making a<br>
Network map [0, 1, 2] at the LA meeting which will help
us make<br>
better tools and information flows to engage newcomers
in the NCSG<br>
& NCUC in the policy process (by using Confluence,
wikis, etc).<br>
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I would be coming from Sao Paulo (Brazil) and I would be
traveling<br>
back to the Amsterdam (Netherlands) after the meeting.<br>
<br>
I hope this works out, let me know if you need more
information of <br>
if you have any questions.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Niels<br>
<br>
Niels ten Oever Head of Digital<br>
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Article 19 <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.article19.org">www.article19.org</a><br>
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On 09/25/2014 10:26 AM, William Drake wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Hello,<br>
<br>
The NCUC EC met in Istanbul at the IGF, minutes
forthcoming. <br>
One of the things we did was approve a new policy
designed<br>
to help active NCUC members attend ICANN meetings.
The<br>
language was finalized yesterday and will soon be
posted to<br>
the website for future reference, but below is the
text.<br>
<br>
It is hoped that this will help us to get more
members to <br>
meetings and engaged in our work, while living
within the<br>
means of our resources and volunteers’ time.
Sorry we can’t<br>
offer more deluxe treatment, but hopefully it will
be enough<br>
to facilitate some increased participation
nonetheless. I<br>
know of no other civil society coalition working
on Internet<br>
governance issues that is doing this, and I’m very
happy that<br>
our fundraising (support principally from PIR and
CGI.br,<br>
sometimes other contributions) has enabled us to
take this<br>
step.<br>
<br>
It is unfortunately too late to do this for the
Los Angeles <br>
meeting. However, if there are any members who
would meet the<br>
criteria below and who’ve already made plans to
attend on<br>
their own steam but are struggling to cover their
costs, we<br>
could consider a request or two on an ad hoc
basis, probably<br>
at a lower level of support.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Bill<br>
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