<div dir="ltr">+1 @Brenden.<div>Cheers !</div><div>-Olevie-</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-08-24 14:51 GMT+00:00 Kathy Kleiman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com" target="_blank">kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>></span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">All,<br>
My gut sense says that we should study this proposal closely. It gives an awful lot of weight and votes to Supporting Organizations that do not, themselves, allow ICANN a role in their governance (ASO, ccNSO), but would now be having a much greater weight in appointing representatives to our governance (namely the Board and its work with GNSO issues). The implications could be astounding.<br>
<br>
I recommend that we talk more. I would value the review and input of those who served on the Nominating Committee, those who have a strong knowledge of the other supporting organizations, and everyone.<br>
<br>
Like the proposal to change the GAC's power, this is one with great implications for the GNSO.<br>
Best,<br>
Kathy<br>
p.s. how does 5 GNSO representatives but only 3 votes mean? Can anyone previously on the NomCom talk about some complexities that might add (currently I think it is one rep, one vote).<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi,<br>
<br>
Further, i neglected to say, i think they thought it through in<br>
admirable fashion and make sense.<br>
<br>
I see their solution as being fair. I suggest we do not oppose it,<br>
neither as a constituency nor as SG, but rather comment individually if<br>
we wish.<br>
<br>
avri<br>
<br>
On 22-Aug-14 16:52, avri doria wrote:<br>
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The only people losing votes are csg Why is that a problem for ncsg?<br>
<br>
Business is not our business. And as the lone civil society sg, we<br>
should ally ourselves more with other non business.<br>
<br>
I do not see this as a bad thing.<br>
<br>
<br>
avri<br>
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-------- Original message --------<br>
From: Kathy Kleiman<br>
Date:08/22/2014 4:21 PM (GMT-05:00)<br>
To: <a href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC Delegate to the 2015 NomCom<br>
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Wow, if these rules are adopted, we (the GNSO) would be outvoted by<br>
Supporting Organizations who do not allow ICANN to run their businesses<br>
(ccNSO and ASO). This is a real problem.<br>
Best,<br>
Kathy<br>
<br>
:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Carlos,<br>
<br>
While it may not go away soon, it may look substantially different in<br>
the future. The Board Working Group Report on Nominating Committee<br>
(BWG-NomCom) was just released for public comment. I'm still digesting<br>
what they've recommended, but they propose some substantial changes:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/bwg-nomcom-2014-08-21-en" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/public-<u></u>comments/bwg-nomcom-2014-08-<u></u>21-en</a><br>
<br>
I encourage everyone to take a moment to read through this.<br>
<br>
-Brenden<br>
<br>
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Carlos A. Afonso <<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca" target="_blank">ca@cafonso.ca</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca" target="_blank">ca@cafonso.ca</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Since this NomCom concoction will not go away any soon, I of course<br>
support Brenden.<br>
<br>
--c.a.<br>
<br>
On 08/22/2014 02:59 PM, Marilia Maciel wrote:<br>
> Yes, +1 to Brenden.<br>
> Marília<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Robin Gross<br>
<<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" target="_blank">robin@ipjustice.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" target="_blank">robin@ipjustice.org</a>><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" target="_blank">robin@ipjustice.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" target="_blank">robin@ipjustice.org</a>>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Brenden has my full support for 2nd term. NCUC is lucky<br>
that he is<br>
> willing to do it again.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Robin<br>
><br>
> On Aug 22, 2014, at 4:10 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hi,<br>
>><br>
>> I’m all for Brenden staying on for another term as NCUC’s<br>
delegate<br>
>> to the NomCom. Glad he’s willing.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks.<br>
>><br>
>> Amr<br>
>><br>
>> On Aug 22, 2014, at 9:31 AM, William Drake<br>
<<a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank">wjdrake@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank">wjdrake@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Hi<br>
>>><br>
>>> We need to appoint a NCUC delegate to the 2015 ICANN NomCom in<br>
>>> the next week or so. It’s unfortunate that NomCom’s cycle<br>
>>> doesn’t synch with our election cycle but c’est la vie.<br>
>>><br>
>>> *What is the Nomcom?*<br>
>>><br>
>>> ICANN's Nominating Committee (NomCom) is responsible for the<br>
>>> selection of eight ICANN Board Members and for other<br>
selections<br>
>>> as are set forth in the Bylaws. (See Bylaws Article VII,<br>
Section<br>
>>> 1 athttp://<a href="http://www.icann.org/general/bylaws.htm#VII-1" target="_blank">www.icann.org/<u></u>general/bylaws.htm#VII-1</a><br>
<<a href="http://www.icann.org/general/bylaws.htm#VII-1" target="_blank">http://www.icann.org/general/<u></u>bylaws.htm#VII-1</a>>)<br>
>>><br>
>>> The NomCom is also charged with appointing some members of<br>
the At<br>
>>> Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), the Country Code Names<br>
>>> Supporting Organization (ccNSO) Council and the Generic Names<br>
>>> Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council. The NomCom complements<br>
>>> the other means for filling a portion of key ICANN leadership<br>
>>> positions achieved within the Supporting Organizations and<br>
>>> Advisory Committees.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Together, the NomCom and Supporting Organization/Advisory<br>
>>> Committee selection pathways ensure that ICANN benefits from<br>
>>> functional, cultural and geographic diversity in its policy<br>
>>> development and decision-making as the Internet evolves.<br>
>>><br>
>>> *Who serves on Nomcom? *<br>
>>><br>
>>> ICANN’s SOs and ACs send appointees to serve up to two<br>
>>> consecutive one-year terms on the Nomcom. You can read<br>
more about<br>
>>> the structure here <<a href="http://nomcom.icann.org" target="_blank">http://nomcom.icann.org</a><br>
>>> <<a href="http://nomcom.icann.org/" target="_blank">http://nomcom.icann.org/</a>>>.<br>
>>><br>
>>> *Who is NCUC’s current appointee to Nomcom?*<br>
>>><br>
>>> For 2014-2015, Brenden Kuerbis of the Internet Governance<br>
Project<br>
>>> served. He took over for Rafik Dammak, who was elected to<br>
NCSG Chair.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Brenden has expressed interest to the Exec Com in<br>
continuing as<br>
>>> NCUC’s appointee. Despite joining midstream, he was able<br>
to make<br>
>>> a positive impact from recruiting applicants to selecting<br>
>>> individuals to positions. Selections were announced on the<br>
ICANN<br>
>>> website August 15<br>
>>> <<a href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-08-15-en" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/news/<u></u>announcement-2014-08-15-en</a>>.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Next year is an important cycle for Nomcom. It includes<br>
>>> selections for 3 board seats and 2 NCAs to the GNSO, as<br>
well as<br>
>>> other positions. Brenden has asked the EC for names of<br>
people we<br>
>>> should approach about applying, as well as opportunities<br>
where we<br>
>>> might do general outreach. He is also happy to speak with us<br>
>>> about the process and how NCUC can best engage it.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Would anyone else be interested in being considered for this<br>
>>> position? If so we could have the contending applicants make<br>
>>> their cases here on the list and then the EC would decide<br>
taking<br>
>>> into account the views expressed, an assessment of the<br>
>>> applicants' qualifications, etc. If not, the EC can just go<br>
>>> ahead and vote on Brenden’s renewal.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Let's please move on this in the next week, before the IGF.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thanks,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Bill<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> ******************************<u></u>*****************<br>
>>> William J. Drake<br>
>>> International Fellow & Lecturer<br>
>>> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ<br>
>>> University of Zurich, Switzerland<br>
>>> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency,<br>
>>> ICANN, <a href="http://www.ncuc.org" target="_blank">www.ncuc.org</a> <<a href="http://www.ncuc.org" target="_blank">http://www.ncuc.org</a>><br>
<<a href="http://www.ncuc.org/" target="_blank">http://www.ncuc.org/</a>><br>
>>> <a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@uzh.ch</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@uzh.ch</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>>> (direct), <a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank">wjdrake@gmail.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank">wjdrake@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>>> (lists),<br>
>>> <a href="http://www.williamdrake.org" target="_blank">www.williamdrake.org</a> <<a href="http://www.williamdrake.org" target="_blank">http://www.williamdrake.org</a>><br>
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