<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body ><div>The only people losing votes are csg  Why is that a problem for ncsg?</div><div><br></div><div>Business is not our business. And as the lone civil society sg, we should ally ourselves more with other non business.</div><div><br></div><div>I do not see this as a bad thing.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:75%">avri</div><div style="font-size:75%"><br></div><div style="font-size:75%">Sent from a T-Mobile 4G LTE Device</div><br><br><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com> </div><div>Date:08/22/2014  4:21 PM  (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org </div><div>Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC Delegate to the 2015 NomCom </div><div><br></div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Wow, if these rules are adopted, we
      (the GNSO) would be outvoted by Supporting Organizations who do
      not allow ICANN to run their businesses (ccNSO and ASO). This is a
      real problem.<br>
      Best,<br>
      Kathy<br>
      <br>
      :<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Carlos, 
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        <div>While it may not go away soon, it may look substantially
          different in the future. The Board Working Group Report on
          Nominating Committee (BWG-NomCom) was just released for public
          comment. I'm still digesting what they've recommended, but
          they propose some substantial changes:</div>
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        <div>I encourage everyone to take a moment to read through this.<br>
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            <div>-Brenden</div>
            <br>
            <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:05 AM,
              Carlos A. Afonso <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca" target="_blank">ca@cafonso.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Since
                this NomCom concoction will not go away any soon, I of
                course<br>
                support Brenden.<br>
                <br>
                --c.a.<br>
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                  On 08/22/2014 02:59 PM, Marilia Maciel wrote:<br>
                  > Yes, +1 to Brenden.<br>
                  > Marília<br>
                  ><br>
                  ><br>
                  > On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Robin Gross <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a><br>
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                <div class="">> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a>>>
                  wrote:<br>
                  ><br>
                  >     Brenden has my full support for 2nd term. 
                  NCUC is lucky that he is<br>
                  >     willing to do it again.<br>
                  ><br>
                  >     Thanks,<br>
                  >     Robin<br>
                  ><br>
                  >     On Aug 22, 2014, at 4:10 AM, Amr Elsadr
                  wrote:<br>
                  ><br>
                  >>     Hi,<br>
                  >><br>
                  >>     I’m all for Brenden staying on for
                  another term as NCUC’s delegate<br>
                  >>     to the NomCom. Glad he’s willing.<br>
                  >><br>
                  >>     Thanks.<br>
                  >><br>
                  >>     Amr<br>
                  >><br>
                  >>     On Aug 22, 2014, at 9:31 AM, William
                  Drake <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com">wjdrake@gmail.com</a><br>
                </div>
                <div class="">>>     <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>>>
                  wrote:<br>
                  >><br>
                  >>>     Hi<br>
                  >>><br>
                  >>>     We need to appoint a NCUC delegate to
                  the 2015 ICANN NomCom in<br>
                  >>>     the next week or so.  It’s
                  unfortunate that NomCom’s cycle<br>
                  >>>     doesn’t synch with our election cycle
                  but c’est la vie.<br>
                  >>><br>
                </div>
                >>>     *What is the Nomcom?*<br>
                <div class="">>>><br>
                  >>>     ICANN's Nominating Committee (NomCom)
                  is responsible for the<br>
                  >>>     selection of eight ICANN Board
                  Members and for other selections<br>
                  >>>     as are set forth in the Bylaws. (See
                  Bylaws Article VII, Section<br>
                  >>>     1 athttp://<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.icann.org/general/bylaws.htm#VII-1" target="_blank">www.icann.org/general/bylaws.htm#VII-1</a>)<br>
                  >>><br>
                  >>>     The NomCom is also charged with
                  appointing some members of the At<br>
                  >>>     Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), the
                  Country Code Names<br>
                  >>>     Supporting Organization (ccNSO)
                  Council and the Generic Names<br>
                  >>>     Supporting Organization (GNSO)
                  Council. The NomCom complements<br>
                  >>>     the other means for filling a portion
                  of key ICANN leadership<br>
                  >>>     positions achieved within the
                  Supporting Organizations and<br>
                  >>>     Advisory Committees.<br>
                  >>><br>
                  >>>     Together, the NomCom and Supporting
                  Organization/Advisory<br>
                  >>>     Committee selection pathways ensure
                  that ICANN benefits from<br>
                  >>>     functional, cultural and geographic
                  diversity in its policy<br>
                  >>>     development and decision-making as
                  the Internet evolves.<br>
                  >>><br>
                </div>
                >>>     *Who serves on Nomcom? *<br>
                <div class="">>>><br>
                  >>>     ICANN’s SOs and ACs send appointees
                  to serve up to two<br>
                  >>>     consecutive one-year terms on the
                  Nomcom. You can read more about<br>
                  >>>     the structure here <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://nomcom.icann.org" target="_blank">http://nomcom.icann.org</a><br>
                </div>
                >>>     <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://nomcom.icann.org/" target="_blank">http://nomcom.icann.org/</a>>>.<br>
                >>><br>
                >>>     *Who is NCUC’s current appointee to
                Nomcom?*<br>
                <div>
                  <div class="h5">>>><br>
                    >>>     For 2014-2015, Brenden Kuerbis of
                    the Internet Governance Project<br>
                    >>>     served. He took over for Rafik
                    Dammak, who was elected to NCSG Chair.<br>
                    >>><br>
                    >>>     Brenden has expressed interest to
                    the Exec Com in continuing as<br>
                    >>>     NCUC’s appointee. Despite joining
                    midstream, he was able to make<br>
                    >>>     a positive impact from recruiting
                    applicants to selecting<br>
                    >>>     individuals to positions.
                    Selections were announced on the ICANN<br>
                    >>>     website August 15<br>
                    >>>     <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-08-15-en" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-08-15-en</a>>.<br>
                    >>><br>
                    >>>     Next year is an important cycle for
                    Nomcom. It includes<br>
                    >>>     selections for 3 board seats and 2
                    NCAs to the GNSO, as well as<br>
                    >>>     other positions. Brenden has asked
                    the EC for names of people we<br>
                    >>>     should approach about applying, as
                    well as opportunities where we<br>
                    >>>     might do general outreach.  He is
                    also happy to speak with us<br>
                    >>>     about the process and how NCUC can
                    best engage it.<br>
                    >>><br>
                    >>>     Would anyone else be interested in
                    being considered for this<br>
                    >>>     position?  If so we could have the
                    contending applicants make<br>
                    >>>     their cases here on the list and
                    then the EC would decide taking<br>
                    >>>     into account the views expressed,
                    an assessment of the<br>
                    >>>     applicants' qualifications, etc. 
                    If not, the EC can just go<br>
                    >>>     ahead and vote on Brenden’s
                    renewal.<br>
                    >>><br>
                    >>>     Let's please move on this in the
                    next week, before the IGF.<br>
                    >>><br>
                    >>>     Thanks,<br>
                    >>><br>
                    >>>     Bill<br>
                    >>><br>
                    >>><br>
                    >>>     
                    ***********************************************<br>
                    >>>     William J. Drake<br>
                    >>>     International Fellow & Lecturer<br>
                    >>>       Media Change & Innovation
                    Division, IPMZ<br>
                    >>>       University of Zurich, Switzerland<br>
                    >>>     Chair, Noncommercial Users
                    Constituency,<br>
                  </div>
                </div>
                >>>       ICANN, <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.ncuc.org" target="_blank">www.ncuc.org</a>
                <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.ncuc.org/" target="_blank">http://www.ncuc.org/</a>><br>
                <div class="">>>>     <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a><br>
                  >>>     <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>>
                  (direct), <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com">wjdrake@gmail.com</a><br>
                  >>>     <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>>
                  (lists),<br>
                  >>>       <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.williamdrake.org" target="_blank">www.williamdrake.org</a>
                  <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.williamdrake.org/" target="_blank">http://www.williamdrake.org/</a>><br>
                </div>
                <div class="">>>>   
                   ***********************************************<br>
                  >>><br>
                  >>>   
                   _______________________________________________<br>
                  >>>     Ncuc-discuss mailing list<br>
                </div>
                >>>     <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a>
                <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br>
                <div class="">>>>     <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss" target="_blank">http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a><br>
                  >><br>
                  >>   
                   _______________________________________________<br>
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                >>     <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a>
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                  >   
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                > --<br>
                > *Marília Maciel*<br>
                <div class="">> Pesquisadora Gestora - Centro de
                  Tecnologia e Sociedade - FGV Direito Rio<br>
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