<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Great to hear you were able to make it, I would love to make it to c3 one of these years - a long way from home for me though!<div>I agree that it would be great to have some sort of NCUC presence there, and get some of their input in IG debates</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div>David</div><div><br><div><div>On 7 Jan 2014, at 7:28 pm, Milan, Stefania <<a href="mailto:Stefania.Milan@EUI.eu">Stefania.Milan@EUI.eu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr" fpstyle="1" aria-label="Corpo del messaggio" tabindex="0" id="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div name="divtagdefaultwrapper" id="divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0px;"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40); font-family: 'Segoe UI WPC', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, 'Microsoft Sans Serif', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Dear NCUCers,</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40); font-family: 'Segoe UI WPC', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, 'Microsoft Sans Serif', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40); font-family: 'Segoe UI WPC', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, 'Microsoft Sans Serif', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">happy new year! </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40); font-family: 'Segoe UI WPC', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, 'Microsoft Sans Serif', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40); font-family: 'Segoe UI WPC', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, 'Microsoft Sans Serif', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">As the last act of 2013, I attended the Chaos Communication Congress (CCC). As </span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(40, 40, 40); font-family: 'Segoe UI WPC', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, 'Microsoft Sans Serif', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">I believe this is a relevant venue for NCUC, this mail is to share a few impressions/reflections that you might find interesting.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40); font-family: 'Segoe UI WPC', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, 'Microsoft Sans Serif', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40); font-family: 'Segoe UI WPC', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, 'Microsoft Sans Serif', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">The CCC (or 30C3, given this is edition number 30), is probably the biggest </span><span class="currentHitHighlight" id="0.030092421220615506" name="searchHitInReadingPane" style="background-color: rgb(216, 35, 0); color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 'Segoe UI WPC', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, 'Microsoft Sans Serif', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">hacker</span><span style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40); font-family: 'Segoe UI WPC', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, 'Microsoft Sans Serif', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> festival/gathering in the world. It takes place annually in Germany (historically in Berlin, nowadays in Hamburg), towards the end of the year (December 27-30). </span></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40); font-family: 'Segoe UI WPC', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, 'Microsoft Sans Serif', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40); font-family: 'Segoe UI WPC', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, 'Microsoft Sans Serif', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Imagine some >9500 </span><span class="highlight" id="0.6266192097682506" name="searchHitInReadingPane" style="background-color: rgb(255, 238, 148); color: rgb(40, 40, 40); font-family: 'Segoe UI WPC', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, 'Microsoft Sans Serif', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">hacker</span><span style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40); font-family: 'Segoe UI WPC', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, 'Microsoft Sans Serif', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">s in one place, engaged in a sort of around-the-clock marathon of talks, hacking and partying. Interestingly, there is not only politics there (not necessarily a given in this environment), but there are also quite some internet governance debates. Now, we have to understand internet governance in its broadest sense, one that includes the current hot issue (surveillance) and a variety of public policy issues concering data privacy, transparency, retention etc. </span><br style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40); font-family: 'Segoe UI WPC', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, 'Microsoft Sans Serif', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40); font-family: 'Segoe UI WPC', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, 'Microsoft Sans Serif', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">There were debates on SOPA/PIPA (nothing new here), on the EU policies concerning privacy and data retention, on net neutrality... and the rooms were very, very full. </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40); font-family: 'Segoe UI WPC', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, 'Microsoft Sans Serif', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><font color="#282828" face="Segoe UI WPC, Segoe UI, Tahoma, Microsoft Sans Serif, Verdana, sans-serif" size="2">I believe the NCUC should make sure to have a presence at CCC as well, and more generally liaise with hacker community(ies). </font></span><span style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40); font-family: 'Segoe UI WPC', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, 'Microsoft Sans Serif', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">You might remember that I am very new to this ICANN business, but particularly concerned with inclusion and participation of those communities which are excluded (or, best said, typically self-excluded) from these processes - yet, they are relevant communities and have much to say, with a legitimacy which is derived from serving very real communities, and from a hands-on approach that is informed, very concrete and problem-solving-oriented (while being rooted on </span><span class="highlight" id="0.23286177963018417" name="searchHitInReadingPane" style="background-color: rgb(255, 238, 148); color: rgb(40, 40, 40); font-family: 'Segoe UI WPC', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, 'Microsoft Sans Serif', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">hacker</span><span style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40); font-family: 'Segoe UI WPC', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, 'Microsoft Sans Serif', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> ethics). </span><span style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40); font-family: 'Segoe UI WPC', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, 'Microsoft Sans Serif', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">The challenge is to think about ways in which this wonderful container of ideas, values and knowledge can be involved in what we do and care about. </span><br style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40); font-family: 'Segoe UI WPC', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, 'Microsoft Sans Serif', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40); font-family: 'Segoe UI WPC', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, 'Microsoft Sans Serif', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40); font-family: 'Segoe UI WPC', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, 'Microsoft Sans Serif', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">If you are curious, check out the (messy) event blog:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://events.ccc.de/">events.ccc.de</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>- and do drop me an email if you are interesting in exchanging ideas or have any suggestion in this regard. </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font color="#282828" face="Segoe UI WPC, Segoe UI, Tahoma, Microsoft Sans Serif, Verdana, sans-serif" size="2">Happy new year!</font><br style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40); font-family: 'Segoe UI WPC', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, 'Microsoft Sans Serif', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40); font-family: 'Segoe UI WPC', 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, 'Microsoft Sans Serif', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Stefania</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br></div><div name="divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin: 0px;"><div class="BodyFragment"><font size="2"><font face="Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></font><div class="PlainText" style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><font face="Helvetica, sans-serif">----------------------</font></div><div class="PlainText" style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><font face="Helvetica, sans-serif">Stefania Milan, PhD</font></div><div class="PlainText" style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><font face="Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="http://stefaniamilan.net/">http://stefaniamilan.net/</a></font></div></font></div></div></div></div><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; 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