<div dir="ltr"><div>Thank you for the documents and the information shared. I would be very much willing to join others who would like to work around this issue, in any of the formats proposed by Bill. <br></div><div><br></div>
<div>@Imran, I relate to the points you make about the auctions as an instrument for conflict resolution of applications. To me it is another sign that concerns about economic disparities are not taken into account. The mechanism tends to reinforce the economic power of the powerful and may lead to more concentration. In spite of that, how feasible it is now to question and promote changes to this instrument? As far as I understood, the best we can do at this point is put the funds (from auctions and possibly other sources, as Rafik mentioned) to a good use. Is that it?</div>
<div><br></div><div>@ Bill, differences of opinion based on different ideological preferences reflect not only here but in other lists. Nevertheless, I do think that there are more things that unite us then things separating us. I think I would be very possible to come up with good and concrete suggestions to employ the resources in a way that would benefit the community. The idea of the foundation is an interesting one, for example, that may be fleshed out. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Any idea about when the public comment period starts?</div><div><br></div><div>Best!</div><div><br></div><div>Marília</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tracyhackshaw@gmail.com" target="_blank">tracyhackshaw@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">On a related note, the GAC has, as per its BA Communique, formally established a Working Group to examine (future) new gTLD issues ... one of which is Applicant Support and Developing Economies' (involvement/participation). A large percentage of the foundational input into this Working Group is based on an assessment of the implementation of the JAS Working Group recommendations as well as an assessment of the effectiveness of the final version of the Applicant Support Program.</p>
<p dir="ltr">An initial position on the issue with the potential, based on wider GAC discussion, to move forward to formal GAC Advice is due in Singapore.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I am certain that the inputs of the NCUC, among others, on this topic, will be VERY welcomed and immediately considered by the Working Group.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 2, 2013 11:58 PM, "Rafik Dammak" <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Hi Marilia,<div><br></div><div>regarding auctions, one of the proposal (mentioned again in Ba meeting by Avri) was to create an ICANN Foundation to manage those funds coming from auctions. That was suggested in the final report (<a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/22970578/Final_Report_JASWG+%28Sept+2011%29_Seth+created_Submitted.pdf" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/22970578/Final_Report_JASWG+%28Sept+2011%29_Seth+created_Submitted.pdf</a>) made by the joiny working on new gTLD applicant support or JAS and the board didn't pick-up that recommendation in that time . </div>
<div><br></div><div>it is also possible to add other existing funds not related to new gTLD program per se.</div><div><br></div><div>Another option can be to support applicants from developing countries in second round of the new gTLD program (I would prefer those not having commercial interests to be supported) and working to make it more open and inclusive. Unfortunately, the applicant support was implemented too late for the first round in Jan 2012. </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">as Amr said, public interest can be broad and having several interpretations, we can see that on GAC advices to request content policy via TLD. However, for applicant support, we also found support from the GAC to the recommendation made by the WG.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Rafik</div></div></div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/12/3 Marilia Maciel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com" target="_blank">mariliamaciel@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Hi Amr! I have no particular attachment to this expression, we can use whatever suits our discussion. Or we can avoid definitions and focus on concrete proposals of what to do with the revenues that would benefit the wider community. My point was just that revenues should not be entreasured by ICANN or be appropriated by private actors in the chain, but put to good use. What are the areas under ICANN's mandate in which additional resources could benefit non-commercial interests? Foster development of the Internet? That is what I am mulling over and would love to have company :)<div>
<br></div><div>Marília</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Amr Elsadr <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aelsadr@egyptig.org" target="_blank">aelsadr@egyptig.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>Hi Marilia,</div><div><br></div><div>I share your interest in this process and its outcome, however like you, am not as informed on it as I would like to be. Reading up on this is on my “to do” list, but I do have one observation:</div>
<div><br></div><div>I personally have a problem with the term “public interest”. I do not believe there is a standard or agreed upon definition of the term. It is largely subjective as far as I can tell. If you ask a lawyer active in civil society work in Brazil what the public interest is, I doubt you will get the same response if you ask a state-security officer in Egypt (for example). Forgive me if I’m a bit touchy with the term. I’ve had some unpleasant experience with it in the past.</div>
<div><br></div><div>If there has been a discussion on this list about the auctions, I have missed it. If NCUC does have a position or would like to adopt one, I hope we can agree on specific proposals on what we believe should be done with auction revenues, and not use abstract terms like “pubic interest”.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Just a few thoughts, and as always, I am agreeable to being corrected.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>Amr</div><br><div><div><div><div>On Dec 2, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Marilia Maciel <<a href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com" target="_blank">mariliamaciel@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<br></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div dir="ltr">Dear all,<div><br></div><div>I am trying to understand better the new gTLD program auctions and, more specifically, to understand what are the feasible options to invest the revenue in a way that is public interest oriented and maybe development oriented as well. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Has NCUC reached a common position about the auctions? If not, I would like to join others who would be interested to focus on that. I am sorry if this topic has already been discussed on the list before I join. If so, I will search the archives.</div>
<div><br></div><div>It is my understanding that a proposal from civil society with a public interest orientation could be supported by some govts as well. Actually, some have been looking for inputs on this matter.</div>
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