<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body ><div>What counterfactuals?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:75%">Sent from a T-Mobile 4G LTE Device</div><br><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: William Drake <william.drake@uzh.ch> <br>Date: 06/28/2013 08:47 (GMT-05:00) <br>To: ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org <br>Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] [] Out of contact <br> <br><br>Hi<br><br>On Jun 28, 2013, at 2:01 PM, Avri Doria <avri@ACM.ORG> wrote:<br><br>> +1<br>> <br>> Chair chooses, EC approves.<br>> <br>> or a mid point;<br>> <br>> Chair chooses, EC can overrule.<br>> <br>> But makes no sense to leave the EC out of the process.<br><br>Nope. I would be rather surprised if a chair were to seek to appoint an interim EC member without coordinating with the EC, and indeed with the membership. Hence my original suggestion, which I believe conforms with the bylaws, such as they are: if a member continuously does not participate in decision making processes (the clause says 'vote' but we don't, so what) the chair may appoint an interim, in which context of course s/he'd consult with the EC and membership in search of consensus, which is why I asked if anyone had any suggestions. <br><br>I had hoped we could perform this seemingly innocuous task reasonably quickly so I could get some help on board with Durban work etc., but if we prefer to convene a constitutional convention on the matter, ok. But please let's not premise the party on counterfactuals.<br><br>Bill<br>> <br>> <br>> On 28 Jun 2013, at 00:22, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:<br>> <br>>> <br>>> We could use the same rules, i.e., have the EC select the replacement<br>>> in both cases if there's no 2nd (&c) candidate available.<br>>> In a way it would be more consistent than having the chair do it,<br>>> but I think either way would be fine, as long as it is clearly specified.<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Ncuc-discuss mailing list<br>Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org<br>http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss<br><br></body>