<p>Yap! Great conversation. Thank you, Mr. Drake :-)</p>
<p>--sent from a handheld-- excuse brevity and any typos--</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 2, 2013 3:53 PM, "Kathy Kleiman" <<a href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com">kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Great, it sounds like a good idea - and
a good debate, Bill!<br>
Tx for submitting,<br>
Kathy<br>
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<div>I didn't have a lot of time due to deadlines to debate this
with folks in advance, but FWIW I put in a Fast Track budget
request to ICANN for NCUC to hold a workshop/debate on the topic
at the IGF Bali. Since even with NCUC there are strongly
differen views, we should be able to have a rather lively
multistakeholder debate if approved.</div>
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<div>I also put in a joint proposal for NCSG/NCUC/NPOC for a
workshop on CS @ GNSO, what works, what doesn't, some critical
analysis plus outreach to potential new participants.</div>
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<div>Both visible at <a href="http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/view-proposals" target="_blank">http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/view-proposals</a>
just search on my name if interested.</div>
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<div>Best,</div>
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<div>Bill<br>
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<div>On Apr 2, 2013, at 12:51 AM, Kathy Kleiman <<a href="mailto:Kathy@kathykleiman.com" target="_blank">Kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>>
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<div>For those of us deeply
concerned about Closed Generic TLDs, there seems to be
some indication that the GAC is moving forward on some
recommendations in this area.... but the GAC wording
posted by Robin below is fairly obscure, and we'll learn
more in Beijing!<br>
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Best,<br>
Kathy<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"> our paternalistic GAC and their censorship
plans for the Internet ....<br>
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<div><b>From: </b>David Olive <<a href="mailto:david.olive@icann.org" target="_blank">david.olive@icann.org</a>></div>
<div><b>Date: </b>April 1, 2013 5:34:20 AM PDT</div>
<div><b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:soac-infoalert@icann.org" target="_blank">soac-infoalert@icann.org</a>"
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<div><b>Subject: </b><b>[Soac-infoalert] GAC draft
gTLD agenda for Beijing and advice to the ICANN
Board on controversial or sensitive strings and
applications</b></div>
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<div><a href="https://gacweb.icann.org/display/gacweb/Governmental+Advisory+Committee" target="_blank">https://gacweb.icann.org/display/gacweb/Governmental+Advisory+Committee</a></div>
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<div>GAC draft gTLD agenda for Beijing and
advice to the ICANN Board on controversial
or sensitive strings and applications</div>
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<div>As the New gTLD Program moves forward,
the GAC is making preparations for
delivering further advice on new
gTLDs. This advice constitutes a key
element of the overall process as outlined
in the Applicant Guidebook (AG).</div>
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<div>As anticipated, GAC Member Early
Warnings were issued on November 20, 2012,
and applicants and GAC Members have been
exchanging information with the aim of
reaching an understanding or agreement on
concerns raised, wherever possible.</div>
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<div>In terms of the next phase, described
in module 3.1 of the AG, the GAC as a
whole will be discussing its advice on new
gTLDs. These sessions are organized into
two parts:</div>
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<div>Part I Safeguard advice on the basis
of categories of strings</div>
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<div>The GAC discussions will proceed on the
basis of advice to safeguard categories of
strings that raise concerns, or potential
concerns, for governments. There are
currently nine draft categories of strings
proposed for the GAC’s Beijing
agenda. Six were identified in the GAC
Toronto Communique:</div>
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<div> Consumer protection</div>
<div> Strings that are linked to regulated
market sectors, such as the financial,
health and charity sectors</div>
<div> Competition issues</div>
<div> Strings that have broad or multiple
uses or meanings, and where one entity is
seeking exclusive use</div>
<div> Religious terms where the applicant
has no, or limited, support from the
relevant religious organisations or the
religious community.</div>
<div> Minimising the need for defensive
registrations</div>
<div> Protection of geographic names</div>
<div> Intellectual property rights
particularly in relation to strings aimed
at the distribution of music, video and
other digital material</div>
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<div>Three additional categories have now
been proposed for consideration:</div>
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<div> Support for applications submitted
by global authorities</div>
<div> Corporate Identifier gTLDs</div>
<div> Strings that represent inherent
government functions and/or activities</div>
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<div>As the GAC looks at these nine
categories, and how they would apply to
strings and applications falling under
these categories, the number of safeguard
categories or titles of the categories
could change.</div>
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<div>Part II GAC advice/objections on
specific applications</div>
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<div>Twenty specific applications have been
brought forward by a GAC Member or Members
for consideration by the GAC. The GAC
Member(s) putting forward these
applications have linked them to the
following categories:</div>
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<div>Community name where the applicant does
not have support from the community or the
government: 1</div>
<div>Consumer protection: 2</div>
<div>Name of an Intergovernmental
Organisation (IGO): 1</div>
<div>Protection of geographic names: 9</div>
<div>Religious terms: 2</div>
<div>Strings applied for that represent
inherent government functions and/or
activities: 3</div>
<div>Support for applications submitted by
global authorities: 2</div>
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<div>The Operating Principles of the GAC
outline the consensus-based approach of
the Committee and will serve as a key
reference for the GAC in its
deliberations.</div>
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<div>The GAC looks forward to the upcoming
meetings and holding exchanges with the
ICANN Board and community on these and
other important matters.</div>
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<div><span>David A. Olive</span></div>
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President, Policy Development
Support</span><span><br>
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Corporation for Assigned Names and
Numbers (ICANN)</span><span><br>
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