<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><html><head><meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"></head><body>That is a great analysis of some of the multistakeholder processes and challenges, imo.<br/><br/><div>Please excuse my mobile brevity.</div><hr/><div><b>From: </b> Alain Berranger <alain.berranger@GMAIL.COM>
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</div><div><b>Date: </b>Wed, 27 Mar 2013 11:45:50 -0400</div><div><b>To: </b><NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU></div><div><b>ReplyTo: </b> Alain Berranger <alain.berranger@GMAIL.COM>
</div><div><b>Subject: </b>Re: [NCSG-Discuss] Should NCSG consider filing an ombudsman complaint against ICANN senior staff for violating the organization's policy development process?</div><div><br/></div>Dear Robin, dear Colleagues:<div><br></div><div>I agree that GNSO should file too... but will they (Maria's question)? Two complaints (GNSO + NCSG) are better than one (Avri's statement)...</div><div><br></div><div>
3 questions:</div><div><br></div><div>1) From my little experience, I find the ICANN Ombudsman process ineffective - it is time consuming (we are volunteers/the other side is paid), a lot of pain for usually not much gain! Not saying we should not do it, just wondering out loud if we have a chance at all of being successful? or even partially successful? or if we should invest our time in other ways?</div>
<div><br></div><div>2) Robin, I fully understand your TM arguments and they make sense to me as a non-specialist. Can you please elaborate a bit on who the <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.800000190734863px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> "<i>powerful political interests"</i> you refer to are? This may help me and others at the base of the NCSG pyramid understand the context and the issue better...</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.800000190734863px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div><div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif">3) Did Maria fill a complaint to the Ombudsman? and where is it at now?</font></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif">4) I also have a point of view or perhaps an hypothesis to share, from many years of applied MS practice funding developmental and applied policy research in developing countries - may not be relevant but here it is anyway for feedback and reflexion... </font></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif">I see the MS process as one of fundamental inclusion and participation... It is more relevant than ever because of the internet and the networks that spring from it... </font></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif">...the more you are at the bottom of the pyramid ($, knowledge, assets like land ownership, cash, access to resources, etc...) the more you seek participation as a way of climbing up the pyramid (getting yourself out of poverty). The higher you are in the pyramid, the less you welcome participation because it is disruptive at the very least. </font></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif">Inherent to this "MS model" is the power struggle between closely vested interests (in our case the CHP and part of the NCHP) and higher level or principled interests (in our case the rest of NCHP). Not that there are not closely vested interests as well as principled interests everywhere in an MS organization, including ICANN. </font></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif">Closely vested interests are very time sensitive (profits, status and privileges are lessened by indecision and ambiguity - the rules of the game are not clear driving the the "powerful political interests" crazy!) while principled interests are less time sensitive (although short term costs are usually huge too) because they are universal.</font></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif">So here comes a question: How does an <i>operational organization</i> like ICANN wishing to become better at MS behavior (we can assume that anyway for the eternal optimist) resolves the issue of closely vested vs. principled interests? </font></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif">They are by nature in tension and should be... What is essential is to keep a balance... For instance, taking just one of the financial dimensions, it is the DNS supply side that keeps feeding extra cash into ICANN and the DNS demand side does not have the means to bring this in balance, although it is the market.... it is a bit of a class struggle (or concentration of power differentials on the supply and demand sides) in the sense that if you do not keep this delicate balance the system will eventually fail. It is a matter of time!</font></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif">I for one would like to see ICANN survive as an MS organization, being able to keep the "rapport de forces" in equilibrium.</font></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif">I would love to hear a criticism of this model's assumption and also perhaps if it can help in bringing back balance... or is it simply a theoretical treatment?</font></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif">Best, Alain<br></font><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 5:51 AM, Horacio T. Cadiz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hcadiz@ph.net" target="_blank">hcadiz@ph.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I support filing a case.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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