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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">In my individual capacity and as a NCUC
      ExCom member, I want to share my opinion: I think it would be
      appropriate and important to file an Ombudsman complaint against
      ICANN senior staff for violating the organization's policy
      development process. Just to informally raise the voice of NCSG
      and even GNSO positions have not resulted in a rectification of
      the problems, so to initiate a higher level official complaint is
      a necessary next step.<br>
      <br>
      Norbert Klein<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 3/27/2013 5:11 AM, Brenden Kuerbis wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CANwsP3D2eq70LBi0fTyCD1VcoDxB2DjA8UtMbAGdURNOKcy9aw@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">Happy to help with this as well.
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      <div>-- Brenden<br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 5:54 PM, joy <span
            dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:joy@apc.org" target="_blank">joy@apc.org</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            +1 - I am happy to support this idea.<br>
            Joy<br>
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              On 27/03/2013 9:47 a.m., William Drake wrote:<br>
              > +1<br>
              ><br>
              > Get some allies<br>
              ><br>
              > On Mar 26, 2013, at 8:28 PM, <a
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                href="mailto:Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu">Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu</a><br>
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            <div class="im">> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu">Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu</a>>
              wrote:<br>
              ><br>
              >> I agree that the Council would be the appropriate
              filer in this<br>
              >> case. As I mentioned in a different message,
              there seems to be a<br>
              >> pattern that decisions are being made outside the
              GNSO policy<br>
              >> processes - although that may be proven to not be
              the case in<br>
              >> one or more of the instances we've discussed on
              this list. In<br>
              >> any event I think it would be useful and
              appropriate for the<br>
              >> Council to discuss this directly, and hope our
              Councilors can<br>
              >> support this action. It seems to me also that
              before introducing<br>
              >> the motion it may be worth investigating whether
              a Councilor from<br>
              >> a different SG/House would be prepared to second
              it.<br>
              >><br>
              >> Cheers Mary<br>
              >><br>
              >><br>
              >> Mary W S Wong Professor of Law Faculty Chair,
              Global IP<br>
              >> Partnerships Chair, Graduate IP Programs
              UNIVERSITY OF NEW<br>
              >> HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW Two White Street Concord,
              NH 03301 USA<br>
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            >> Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:mary.wong@law.unh.edu">mary.wong@law.unh.edu</a>
            <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:mary.wong@law.unh.edu">mary.wong@law.unh.edu</a>><br>
            <div class="im">>> Phone: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="tel:1-603-513-5143" value="+16035135143">1-603-513-5143</a>
              Webpage:<br>
              >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php"
                target="_blank">http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php</a><br>
              >><br>
              >><br>
              >>>>><br>
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            >> *From: *  Avri Doria <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:avri@ACM.ORG">avri@ACM.ORG</a> <mailto:<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:avri@ACM.ORG">avri@ACM.ORG</a>>>
            *To:*<br>
            >>  <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
            >> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>>>
            *Date: *  3/26/2013 3:23<br>
            >> PM *Subject: *  Re: [NCSG-Discuss] Should NCSG
            consider filing<br>
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              <div class="h5">>> an ombudsman complaint against
                ICANN senior staff for violating<br>
                >> the organization's policy development process?<br>
                >><br>
                >> Hi<br>
                >><br>
                >> I can support the NCSG filling such a
                complaint, though it would<br>
                >> be better for the GNSO Council to file it.<br>
                >><br>
                >> Perhaps we can first introduce it as a motion
                for the next<br>
                >> g-council meeting, and if the council decides
                against it, then<br>
                >> we could do it independently.<br>
                >><br>
                >> avri<br>
                >><br>
                >> On 26 Mar 2013, at 15:14, Robin Gross wrote:<br>
                >><br>
                >>> I think NCSG should consider filing an
                ombudsman complaint<br>
                >>> against<br>
                >> the organization's senior management for
                violating the<br>
                >> organization's policy development process by
                adopting staff's<br>
                >> "strawman solution" which never went through
                proper process (or<br>
                >> any process for that matter).<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> The most dangerous part of staff's adopted
                proposal creates<br>
                >> unprecedented new rights for trademark holders
                with this "once<br>
                >> infringed" theory of new rights to TM+50
                derivations of that<br>
                >> mark. This particular proposal was stitched
                together by TM<br>
                >> lobbyists and staff when NCSG wasn't even in
                the room - because<br>
                >> it was 10pm at night in LA and I had left for
                my flight on<br>
                >> staff's assurances that no policy discussions
                would take place<br>
                >> that evening.  ALAC wasn't in the room either
                (although Evan &<br>
                >> Alan participated remotely on the phone in the
                middle of their<br>
                >> night).<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> The GNSO Council said don't adopt this
                policy.<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> ICANN staff admitted the proposal was a
                policy decision and<br>
                >>> not an<br>
                >> implementation decision - a key distinction in
                staff's ability<br>
                >> to make decisions. [Although the first time
                staff published its<br>
                >> report on the mtg's discussion of that
                proposal, staff's blog<br>
                >> report differed from what the CEO stated to
                meeting participants<br>
                >> and said this proposal had been characterized
                as an<br>
                >> "implementation" decision by mtg participants.
                 It took some<br>
                >> persistence and insistence from mtg
                participants to correct<br>
                >> staff's blog post and classify this proposal as
                "policy" - which<br>
                >> was the truth of what the LA mtg participants
                had said.  Finally<br>
                >> staff gave-in, as I was not the only one to
                complain about the<br>
                >> inaccurate reporting, and they changed the
                web-posting to<br>
                >> reflect that the group - and staff - had
                classified this proposal<br>
                >> as "policy, and not implementation" at the LA
                mtg.  The CEO<br>
                >> apologize for staff's "mistake".  I'm sure it's
                all another<br>
                >> coincidence...]<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> The CEO told Congress only a few weeks'
                previously that ICANN<br>
                >>> could<br>
                >> not adopt such a policy - in part because it
                creates new rights<br>
                >> (and ICANN isn't supposed to creating new
                rights).<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> The above doesn't even go into the
                underlying substance of the<br>
                >> particular (TM+50) proposal (which turns
                trademark law on its<br>
                >> head). How is anyone going to criticize a
                company or product<br>
                >> that was "found to abused" by someone else,
                somewhere else, in<br>
                >> an entirely unrelated circumstance?  This
                proposal actually<br>
                >> thumbs its nose at trademark law because
                trademark law recognizes<br>
                >> that "once infringed" does not create some
                magical new category<br>
                >> of rights that is allowed to trample on the
                expression rights of<br>
                >> all the innocent and lawful uses of a word
                (that resembles a<br>
                >> trademark).  But I'll save the complaints about
                how nonsensical<br>
                >> the substance of this proposal is for another
                email.  This email<br>
                >> is just about the insanity of ICANN senior
                staff attempting to<br>
                >> usurp the bottom-up policy development process
                to appease<br>
                >> powerful political interests.<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> If ICANN staff refuses to follow the
                organization's own stated<br>
                >> policies, the Ombudsman is supposed to be able
                to intercede, no?<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Best, Robin<br>
                >>><br>
                >>><br>
                >>> IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director
                1192 Haight Street,<br>
                >>> San Francisco, CA  94117  USA p: <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%2B1-415-553-6261"
                  value="+14155536261">+1-415-553-6261</a>    f:<br>
                >>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="tel:%2B1-415-462-6451" value="+14154626451">+1-415-462-6451</a>
                w: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://www.ipjustice.org" target="_blank">http://www.ipjustice.org</a><br>
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            >>> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://www.ipjustice.org/" target="_blank">http://www.ipjustice.org/</a>>
                e:<br>
            >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a>
            <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a>><br>
            >>><br>
            >>><br>
            >>><br>
            >><br>
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