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<br><div><div>On Mar 19, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Nicolas Adam <<a href="mailto:nickolas.adam@GMAIL.COM">nickolas.adam@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
  
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    Is it the one from "tangente university" or something like that?
    Sorry to still be missing it.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Scroll down <a href="http://icann.org">icann.org</a></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div><br></div><div>BD<br><blockquote type="cite"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
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      One thing I'd be eager to express a group view on is that abysmal
      map of the Internet governance ecosystem Fadi's put on the front
      page.  I told him I thought it lame and he was genuinely taken
      aback, he's been persuaded it unlocks the secrets of the universe…
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          <div>On Mar 13, 2013, at 10:56 AM, William Drake <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>>
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              <div>Thanks Robin, good notes, one addendum since you
                didn't have a access to the Adobe: there was a small bit
                of discussion about the one-page "cheat sheets" we
                agreed in LA to produce summarizing our positions on key
                issues for Fadi and his team, so they have some
                organized and accessible idea where we're coming from on
                a range of issues.  There was some back and forth about
                just how we would do this and then the discussion got
                side tracked, but I think the most popular view was that
                it should be done at the SG level and coordinated
                through the PC <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Policy+Issue+Summaries">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Policy+Issue+Summaries</a>.
                  From my perspective anyway, one would think this
                should be antecedent to and more important than some of
                the other items mentioned yesterday.  Yes we could try
                to help others and broader processes by focusing the RAA
                discussion, supporting EWG, helping to define "public
                interest" for ICANN and all the rest, but shouldn't we
                first concentrate on getting out our own statements
                about our own views as a community, lay down some
                markers, make it less easy for ICANN leadership and
                staff to characterize community sentiments on a given
                issue in ways that ignore our views, etc.</div>
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              <div>We have three and half weeks until Beijing.
                 Shouldn't we be able to pull together teams to do
                concise and spiffy statements on say 6 topics, e.g.
                maybe a couple cross-cutting institutional
                (transparency, inclusion in the new extra-meeting
                meetings, outreach, policy/implementation) and a couple
                substantive policy (RAA, registrant right,s INGO, WHOIS,
                closed generics—both sides—etc).</div>
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              <div>If there's sufficient juice to do this, I'd volunteer
                to help with the institutional bits, as these synch
                better with the UC EC work underway...</div>
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              <div>Best,</div>
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              <div>Bill</div>
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                  <div>On Mar 13, 2013, at 2:51 AM, Robin Gross <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a>>
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                      receiving the transcript and recording from
                      today's NCSG Open Policy Meeting.
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                      <div>Proposal to organize a couple briefing
                        sessions with ICANN staff and Registrar
                        negotiators regarding the recent debacle over
                        the Registrar Agreement Amendment (RAA) and
                        ICANN unilateralism.</div>
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                      <div>Proposal to organize a briefing session with
                        privacy-concerned members of the WHOIS Expert
                        Working Group about how NCSG can contribute to
                        the EWG discussions and possible outcomes of
                        EWG.</div>
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                      <div>Proposal that NCSG help define "public
                        interest" discussion at ICANN by preparing a
                        list of criteria to consider in the evaluation
                        (Wendy holds drafting pen - looking for input).</div>
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                      <div>Below is the list of discussion topics
                        suggested by NCSG members for NCSG GNSO
                        Representatives to propose at Thursday's GNSO
                        Council Meeting on the topic of Beijing
                        planning.</div>
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                      <div>GNSO & Board Discussion:</div>
                      <div>1.  Bottom-up multi-stakeholderism v. ICANN
                        unilateralism</div>
                      <div>2.  Definition of "public interest" at ICANN</div>
                      <div>3.  ICANN engagement & outreach plans</div>
                      <div>4.  New constituencies<br>
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                          <div>GNSO & GAC Discussion:</div>
                          <div>1.  Policy vs. Implementation - Roles of
                            GAC & GNSO</div>
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                            <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; ">2.
                                 Definition of "public interest" at
                                ICANN</span></div>
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                            <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">CCnso &
                                GNSO Discussion:</span></div>
                            <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">1.  Rights
                                & Responsibilities document in
                                relation to RAA</span></div>
                            <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">2.  ICANN
                                engagement & outreach plans</span></div>
                            <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">3.
                                 Regulation of CCtlds that look like
                                Gtlds</span></div>
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                            <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">I apologize
                                if I've mischaracterized anyone's
                                suggested topic above.  Please correct
                                me.  And also if there are other
                                suggestions to add to this list, please
                                do.</span></div>
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                            <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Thanks,</span></div>
                            <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Robin</span></div>
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                            <div>IP JUSTICE</div>
                            <div>Robin Gross, Executive Director</div>
                            <div>1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 
                              94117  USA</div>
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                              +1-415-462-6451</div>
                            <div>w: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.ipjustice.org/">http://www.ipjustice.org</a> 
                                 e: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a></div>
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