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Don't know how many of you guys have ever stumbled upon this map:<br>
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In 2005 or about I thought it was unlocking the secrets to the
universe, but those are obviously the sole province of the
Hichhicker's Guide.<br>
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I agree with your assessment about the map down at icann.org<br>
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Nicolas<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/19/2013 11:45 AM, William Drake
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Hi Nicolas<br>
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<div>On Mar 19, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Nicolas Adam <<a
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Which front page?<br>
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ICANN's<br>
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Is it the one from "tangente university" or something like
that? Sorry to still be missing it.<br>
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Scroll down <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://icann.org">icann.org</a></div>
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<div>Cheers</div>
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One thing I'd be eager to express a group view on is that
abysmal map of the Internet governance ecosystem Fadi's
put on the front page. I told him I thought it lame and
he was genuinely taken aback, he's been persuaded it
unlocks the secrets of the universe…
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<div>Thanks Robin, good notes, one addendum since
you didn't have a access to the Adobe: there was
a small bit of discussion about the one-page
"cheat sheets" we agreed in LA to produce
summarizing our positions on key issues for Fadi
and his team, so they have some organized and
accessible idea where we're coming from on a
range of issues. There was some back and forth
about just how we would do this and then the
discussion got side tracked, but I think the
most popular view was that it should be done at
the SG level and coordinated through the PC <a
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From my perspective anyway, one would think
this should be antecedent to and more important
than some of the other items mentioned
yesterday. Yes we could try to help others and
broader processes by focusing the RAA
discussion, supporting EWG, helping to define
"public interest" for ICANN and all the rest,
but shouldn't we first concentrate on getting
out our own statements about our own views as a
community, lay down some markers, make it less
easy for ICANN leadership and staff to
characterize community sentiments on a given
issue in ways that ignore our views, etc.</div>
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<div>We have three and half weeks until Beijing.
Shouldn't we be able to pull together teams to
do concise and spiffy statements on say 6
topics, e.g. maybe a couple cross-cutting
institutional (transparency, inclusion in the
new extra-meeting meetings, outreach,
policy/implementation) and a couple substantive
policy (RAA, registrant right,s INGO, WHOIS,
closed generics—both sides—etc).</div>
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<div>If there's sufficient juice to do this, I'd
volunteer to help with the institutional bits,
as these synch better with the UC EC work
underway...</div>
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<div>Best,</div>
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<div>Bill</div>
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<div>On Mar 13, 2013, at 2:51 AM, Robin Gross
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few notes in advance of receiving the
transcript and recording from today's NCSG
Open Policy Meeting.
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<div>Proposal to organize a couple
briefing sessions with ICANN staff and
Registrar negotiators regarding the
recent debacle over the Registrar
Agreement Amendment (RAA) and ICANN
unilateralism.</div>
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<div>Proposal to organize a briefing
session with privacy-concerned members
of the WHOIS Expert Working Group about
how NCSG can contribute to the EWG
discussions and possible outcomes of
EWG.</div>
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<div>Proposal that NCSG help define
"public interest" discussion at ICANN by
preparing a list of criteria to consider
in the evaluation (Wendy holds drafting
pen - looking for input).</div>
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<div>Below is the list of discussion
topics suggested by NCSG members for
NCSG GNSO Representatives to propose at
Thursday's GNSO Council Meeting on the
topic of Beijing planning.</div>
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<div>GNSO & Board Discussion:</div>
<div>1. Bottom-up multi-stakeholderism v.
ICANN unilateralism</div>
<div>2. Definition of "public interest"
at ICANN</div>
<div>3. ICANN engagement & outreach
plans</div>
<div>4. New constituencies<br>
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<div>GNSO & GAC Discussion:</div>
<div>1. Policy vs. Implementation -
Roles of GAC & GNSO</div>
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<div><span class="Apple-style-span"
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Definition of "public interest"
at ICANN</span></div>
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<div><span class="Apple-style-span"
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& GNSO Discussion:</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-size: medium;">1.
Rights & Responsibilities
document in relation to RAA</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-size: medium;">2.
ICANN engagement & outreach
plans</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span"
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Regulation of CCtlds that look
like Gtlds</span></div>
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apologize if I've
mischaracterized anyone's
suggested topic above. Please
correct me. And also if there
are other suggestions to add to
this list, please do.</span></div>
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<div><span class="Apple-style-span"
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<div><span class="Apple-style-span"
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<div>IP JUSTICE</div>
<div>Robin Gross, Executive Director</div>
<div>1192 Haight Street, San
Francisco, CA 94117 USA</div>
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+1-415-462-6451</div>
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