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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">No, Milton, I disagree completely.
Second levels, third levels and top levels are different. You can
try all you want to wish it away, but you can't. Network
Solutions, Inc., back when it was THE REGISTRY AND REGISTRAR of
.com, .org, .net and more operated in a way far different than you
or I as registrants did.<br>
<br>
Registries, whether you like it or not, are imbued by the ICANN
Community (and through contract with ICANN) with obligations to
the protect the security and stability of the Internet. These are
NOT magic words, they are substantive commitments that registries
work on every single day. <br>
<br>
DNSSEC, the ability to lock domains and ensure that they have not
been hijacked (among other features) is a Registry-level
implementation. <br>
<br>
The Applicant Guidebook preserves my view of the world, not yours.
It imbues Registries with obligations towards ICANN, the ICANN
Community, and especially the Internet. These are real
obligations, and ones the Registries will take very seriously --
or lose their TLDs.<br>
<br>
Kathy<br>
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Kathy Kleiman [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com">mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>]
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<p class="MsoNormal">Because a domain name is not a Top
Level Domain.<span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New";color:#1F497D">[Milton L Mueller] Sorry,
Kathy, you’re just wrong here. .FOO is a domain
name. FOO.FOO is a domain name. FOO.FOO.FOO is a
domain name. The DNS is recursive, is recursive, is
recursive, is recursive…(repeat 64 times)<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If we follow your reasoning, there's no
reason to perform extensive Technical, Operational and
Financial Showings/Review of New Registries. We don't
examine registrants, so why should we examine New gTLD
Registries?<span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New";color:#1F497D">[Milton L Mueller] BINGO!
You’ve just unmasked ICANN.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New";color:#1F497D">Fact is, there is _no_
reason to perform those showings other than the very
fervent and politically potent desire of trademark
interests, law enforcement, incumbent operators and
governments to gain regulatory leverage over the
domain name users and market. And I strongly suspect
that you know that as well as I - but only when you
are performing in your normal role as domain name
rights advocate and not as lawyer for a client. ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New";color:#1F497D">“Extensive technical,
operational and financial showings” are regulatory
mechanisms that reflect layer 9 policy demands. As
layer 9 phenomena, they could be applied to SLDs as
well as TLDs. Yes, the scary thing about your
argument, Kathy, is that we COULD examine SLD
registrants as intensively as we examine TLD
registrants if the political demand exists. Indeed,
some countries already do so (we will be visiting
one in April). When you think up rationalizations
for those regulations at one level, you are
providing fodder for their application at any level.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New";color:#1F497D">Even in the most narrow
technical sense, there is no difference. A badly
operated TLD is no more or less impactful on
“Internet stability” than a badly operated SLD. You
may try to reply, “but wait, if .ORG goes down then
millions of people are affected” but I will quickly
reply “but wait, if FACEBOOK.COM goes down….” You
get the picture. What matters is how many people use
it, not what level of the DNS it is at.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier
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entire argument against closed generics on the
“special status” of one level of the DNS, you’ve
lost the argument.
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