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<div>Interesting snap-shot of groups who want special privileges to domain names and have come to ICANN for them.</div><div><br></div><div>In this working group to make recommendations to give special privileges to certain organizations,</div><div> At least 4 representatives of the Red Cross (in 1 form or another).</div><div> 3 reps from the Int'l Olympic Cmte (IOC)</div><div> 5 reps from other IGO's, "the me too gang" <br><div><br></div><div>Even still, a relatively small investment for one of these groups to participate in an ICANN working group will yield hugely lucrative rewards if their lobbyists are successful.</div><div><br></div><div>Robin</div><div><br></div><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>From: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Nathalie Peregrine <<a href="mailto:nathalie.peregrine@icann.org">nathalie.peregrine@icann.org</a>></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Date: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">February 25, 2013 7:40:26 AM PST</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>To: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">"GNSO IGO INGO (<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo@icann.org">gnso-igo-ingo@icann.org</a>)" <<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo@icann.org">gnso-igo-ingo@icann.org</a>></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Cc: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">GNSO Secretariats <<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Subject: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><b>[gnso-igo-ingo] With updated member attendance: MP3 IGO-INGO Protections Policy Development Process (PDP) Working Group - 20 February 2013</b></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class="WordSection1"><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Dear All,</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">The next call for the IGO-INGO Protections Policy Development Process (PDP) Working Group is scheduled on<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span class="apple-style-span"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Wednesday 27 February<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="color: black; ">at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><u><span style="color: red; ">19:00 UTC.</span></u></span></b></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Please find the MP3 recording of the IGO-INGO Protections Policy Development Process (PDP) Working Group teleconference held on<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span class="apple-style-span"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Wednesday 20 February<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="color: black; ">2013 at 1</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">7</span><span style="color: black; ">00 UTC at:</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-igo-ingo-20130221-en.mp3" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-igo-ingo-20130221-en.mp3</a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">On page:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#feb" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#feb</a></span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/</a></span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Attendees:</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Jim Bikoff IPC/IOC</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Avri Doria NCSG</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Chuck Gomes - RySG</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Alan Greenberg - ALAC</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Catherine Gribbin - Red Cross</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Stephane Hankins<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span class="apple-style-span"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "></span></span><span class="apple-style-span"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span class="apple-style-span"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">International Committee of the Red Cross</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">David Heasley - IPC/IOC</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Kiran Malancharuvil - IPC/IOC</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Christopher Rassi - Red Cross</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Thomas Rickert NCA Working group chair</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Claudia MacMaster Tamarit - ISO</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Mary Wong - NCUC</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Mason Cole - GNSO Council vice chair - RrSG</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Lanre Ajayi - NCA</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Debra Hughes - NPOC</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Wolfgang Kleinwachter NCSG</span></span><span class="apple-style-span"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11.5pt; "><o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Ricardo Guilherme RySG</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Joanne Teng WIPO ( standing in for David Roache-Turner)<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Sam Paltridge - OECD<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Gregory Shatan - IPC<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">David Roache-Turner - WIPO<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Apologies:</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Iliya Bazlyankov RrSG</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Evan Leibovitch ALAC</span></span><span class="apple-style-span"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11.5pt; "><o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Paul Diaz RySG<o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Guilaine Fournet (IEC)<o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Alain Berranger - NPOC</span></span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">ICANN Staff:</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Berry Cobb</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Nathalie Peregrine</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; 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margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Adobe Chat transcript<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></u><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">for 20 February<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="color: black; ">2013:</span></span></u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Berry Cobb:Welcome to the 20 FEB 2013 IGO-INGO Conference call.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Ricardo Guilherme (UPU):HI Berry and Nathalie - I will be absent for a few minutes but should re-join shortly<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Nathalie Peregrine:Noted Ricardo.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Ricardo Guilherme (UPU):back<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Kiran Malancharuvil:Good afternoon, Jim Bikoff, David Heasley and myself on the call as well as in chat.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Kiran Malancharuvil:Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Nathalie Peregrine:Thank you Kiran, noted!<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Alan Greenberg:Waiting to get on...<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Nathalie Peregrine:Mary Wong has joined the AC room<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Alan Greenberg:on now<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Mary Wong:Me too (sorry, was waiting for the operator for a while)<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Avri Doria:misserd it was on mute. ok, another time.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Nathalie Peregrine:Stephane Hankins has joined the call<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Alan Greenberg:Thomas, you are saying General Council/Counsel in stead of GNSO Council.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Nathalie Peregrine:Debra Hughes has joined the call<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Nathalie Peregrine:Iliya Bazlyankov sends apologies for this call<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC):@Alan - it's against the law to cybersquat using someone else's words/marks. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Berry Cobb:<a href="http://www.wto.com">http://www.wto.com</a> is the biggest example of "claiming to be" or confusing as to whether the page is that of WTO or not.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Claudia MacMaster Tamarit:Agree with Kiran here.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC):Also, regarding Avri's comment, just because an organization controls a number of domain names acros multiple TLDs doesn't mean we are not harmed by that. The need for defensive registration is a harm.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Claudia MacMaster Tamarit:Exactly Kiran.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Ricardo Guilherme (UPU):+1 to IOC's remarks above<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Avri Doria:I understand that some feel the existsnce of Harm is not a necessary condition. Some on the other hand do beleive it is a necessary condition. We have yet to detemrine that it is a violation of law, or to what degree it is a violation of law. Exactly what is the violation of law: the full name, an infixx/suffix/prefix usage, a typo based defintion? Are they all violations of law? If so please someone shows us this law and the specifics that support these broad interpretations.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC):We have provided a lot of guidance on these questions, but are waiting for the GC to answer the questions as no one seems to take the organizations' word for it. Incidentally, it is not just that we don't "believe" that a showing of actual harm is a necessary condition, but rather that the law does not require such a showing.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC):+1 Ricardo<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Debra Hughes:I encourage the group to consider that this chart doesn't capture domain names that were obtained from third parties or subject to previous enforcement action; also the harm ifor RCRC is the allocation of resources (personal/financial) to manage abuses that should not have been allows under the GC in the first instance.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Avri Doria:The law may not require it in some specific case or uses. And it may not require it for some IGO/INGO etc... Are you claiming that the Law exempts the necessary showing of harm in ICANN policy for all usages and all IGO/INGO?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Avri Doria:Whatever Law protects, the law protects. For the rest policy must determine what is or is not necessary for special protection. Harm may be a necessary element for policy.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC):I would refer you back to the laws cited by each individual organization in question to answer your questions. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Claudia MacMaster Tamarit:Agree with Mary<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Avri Doria:For anyting that is law determined, the local law must be enforced on the Registry or Registrar. Policy is only required for those things not covered by law, or the same law, in localities for which there is a law.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC):What are we asking for that is not covered by law? That question can only be answered to the group's satisfaction by the GC. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC):and even then, maybe not to the group's satisfaction.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Avri Doria:Ok, so no one is asking for anyting not coverd by Law?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Claudia MacMaster Tamarit:I disagree.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Avri Doria:so why is this not a legal case?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC):No one? I believe I've made it clear (at your request) that I only represent the IOC. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC):We have cited the law for every position that we take. Speaking ONLY for the IOC.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Avri Doria:so the issue is relevant to the policy group. i thought yu were maintaing that the issue was not important becasue of the law.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC):you have misunderstood. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Avri Doria:I beleive any Registry or Registra that is beaking their national law vis a vis IOC should be taken to court. We are not about the nefocement of law, that is for the courts.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC):that is an interesting view, thanks for sharing it. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Nathalie Peregrine:Sam Paltridge has joined the AC room<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Avri Doria:Kieren, you are quite welcome. ICANN is not LEA, it is a policy organization that attempts to provide a refulatory function based on a multistakeholder process of policy development.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Avri Doria:s/refulatory/regulatory/<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC):(*Kiran) - ICANN is required to follow applicable laws. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Avri Doria:Kieran, and I am sure they will once those laws have been cleary shown. Of course, the Registrars and Registries are in different jurisdictions, so there is alwasy a question of which law,, and which interpretation of the law must be followed.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC):(*Kiran - no "e") - looking forward to the GC response.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Avri Doria:apologies for my spelling.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Avri Doria:Kiran, I look forward to it as well.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Avri Doria:I've got my bets down on a verdict of 'no applicable law determining the illegality of the use of a string in a domain name." but i am not a lawyer and I often lose my bets.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Claudia MacMaster Tamarit:Support Mary's discussion<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> David Roache-Turner (WIPO):Fully support the comments just made by Ricardo - indeed important that we continue to bear in mind in our deliberations that IGOs are a distinct and limited category of entity with names and acronymsprotected under internatinal law- and the quantum of the discussions fromsome years agao have been materailly impacted by ICANNs decision to massively expand the DNS, which adds weight to the need to revisit ICANN decisions of past years.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> David Roache-Turner (WIPO):fruit salad<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Claudia MacMaster Tamarit:If some organizations can rely on per se reservation of thier names on the basis of existing legal protections, then there is no need for criteria for them. We can spend our time discussing criteria for other IOs.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> David Roache-Turner (WIPO):fully agree with claudia<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Ricardo Guilherme (UPU):+1 Claudia<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> David Roache-Turner (WIPO):...and again very with the spirit of the intervention just made by ricardo<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Ricardo Guilherme (UPU):wrong, Alan<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> David Roache-Turner (WIPO):GAC proposal is for criteria and list<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Ricardo Guilherme (UPU):it is not supposed to be a closed list, it's based on specific objective criteria<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Avri Doria:I actually beleive that is ok to come up with a list that is broader than the GAC's, if that is the right thing to do. And if we are talking about things like clearing houses, challenges and dispute resolution, i think it may even be possible.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> David Roache-Turner (WIPO):right, it may need to be reviewed from time to tim - and in particular, criteria based on .int eligibility criteria + IGO funds and programs plus a list of a number IGOs which have been identified as meeting those criteria<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Ricardo Guilherme (UPU):names AND acronyms<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> David Roache-Turner (WIPO):For IGOS in the GAC, IGO name plus acronymn<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> David Roache-Turner (WIPO):Under the Paris convention, it is the name and acronymn which the IGO has communicated to the 6ter list<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Claudia MacMaster Tamarit:The name should be protected in law, e.g., under trademark law or other national statutes.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> David Roache-Turner (WIPO):Just as an analagous example, protections already granted under the reserve list for UN Member countries, are protected in the UN languages<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> wolfgang:what do you do if two lorgs have the same acronym: IOC is International Olympic Committeee ande the Intergovernmental Oceanographic Commission.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Ricardo Guilherme (UPU):correct, David<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> David Roache-Turner (WIPO):neither can be registered by third parties<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC):@Wolfgang - I see that you have made this argument and given this example many many times in the past. Again, to be crystal clear, the IOC does not seek protection for acronyms. Thanks. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Claudia MacMaster Tamarit:Mary1<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> David Roache-Turner (WIPO):anyway, possibiliy for cooexistence should not of itself be a reason not to preclude third party registration of domains that would be an exact match of an IGO name or acronymn<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> David Roache-Turner (WIPO):in practice, we are talking here about a pool of hundreds of domain names that could correspond in this exact way, as against the virtually limited number out there , especially in an expanded DNS<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Ricardo Guilherme (UPU):the Olympic Charter specifically mentions that the IOC is an international, non-governmental organization whose members are NATURAL persons<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Claudia MacMaster Tamarit:Greg, ISO (the International Organization for Standardization) is an INGO, and one of the some 140 NGOs with General Consultative Status with the UN ECOSOC<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Claudia MacMaster Tamarit:I believe the IEC is also a formal member of the group.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> David Roache-Turner (WIPO):more impirtant to get it right, than get it early!<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Ricardo Guilherme (UPU):absolutely<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Ricardo Guilherme (UPU):anybody = third parties<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Mary Wong:A large majority of NCUC members would oppose blocking.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> David Roache-Turner (WIPO):absolutely<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Ricardo Guilherme (UPU):my "absolutely" was to David's remark<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Ricardo Guilherme (UPU):what I said was "anybody=third parties"<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC):We agree with that proposal, Thomas<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> wolfgang:I oppose blocking as well<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Mason Cole:oppose blocking<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Avri Doria:i oppose all blocking.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Lanre Ajayi:I also oppose blocking<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Avri Doria:whereas i support curative processes.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Ricardo Guilherme (UPU):no curative processes for UPU (and other IGOs)<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> David Roache-Turner (WIPO):exact matches based on blocking third party registration of IGO names and acronmyns other than with IGO consent would work - IGO consent to allow for potential cases of legitimate use<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Avri Doria:i also suppor a recommendaion that induces specific regisries o voluntarily block. i would recommend ha regisries consider voluntary blocking.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Ricardo Guilherme (UPU):+1 David<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> David Roache-Turner (WIPO):we need to bear in mind we are talking of blocking tghe smallest handful of domain names potentially availble in the DNS overall<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Mason Cole:need to ring off -- thanks everyone<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> David Roache-Turner (WIPO):comparable in some ways to country names and territories<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Avri Doria:there is blocking and there are exclusive reservations.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> David Roache-Turner (WIPO):prevention against sthird party registration may be better than blcoking - IGOs mayh also want to use their own names or acronmys<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Mary Wong:@David, it would have to be that type of justification (and of that magnitude/level) to justify any form of blocking.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> David Roache-Turner (WIPO):exactly Thomas<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Mary Wong:+1 to Claudia's suggestion - building on Avri's point on voluntary blocks by registries, it could be a good balance of interests here.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Claudia MacMaster Tamarit:.NGO would be one example would be one TLD where INGOs would be particularly wary.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Mary Wong:@Claudia, that's what I was thinking too.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Ricardo Guilherme (UPU):I have to leave in a couple of mins, thanks to all<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> wolfgang:I have to leave in five minutes.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> wolfgang:w<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC):Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Ricardo Guilherme (UPU):thank you Thomas<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> Mary Wong:Thanks, as always, Thomas and everyone!<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> David Roache-Turner (WIPO):thanks all<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Nathalie Peregrine:thank you!<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; 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