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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks, Mary for the advice, and David
for the follow-up.<br>
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I appreciate such orientation as I am preparing to substitute
again for Joy at the GNSO meeting in a couple of hours.<br>
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Any further advice from anybody?<br>
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<br>
Norbert<br>
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On 14 2.2013 10:32, David Cake wrote:<br>
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<div>On 14/02/2013, at 9:48 AM, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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size="3" face="Lucida Grande">Good to see the support
from NCUC and NPOC members! I was on the call with Avri
today and it was really odd. May I request our
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<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I
am willing to speak during the council call to make this point.
I strongly agree that any move to restrict IGO/INGO names at
this point is very premature. </div>
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size="3" face="Lucida Grande">It seems to me that all
the GNSO Council needs to say to the Board at this time
is that the Working Group for the PDP is going strong,
doing plenty of work and having lots of excellent
discussions. As such, rather than act in haste/under
pressure from the GAC/peremptorily, the Board ought to
wait for the GNSO's PDP to run its course. The Council
should convey to the Board its belief that the PDP WG
will come up with a set of firm and implementable
recommendations that will have been thoroughly discussed
with some of the affected IGOs and INGOs, and advise the
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Dear Avr<br>
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Greetings. If there is any way I can help to
draft a statement to the board<br>
before the 28th please let me know.<br>
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Yours<br>
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Klais<br>
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From: Carl Smith<br>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:23 PM<br>
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Subject: Re: The Board, IGO entitlement to
special protections and 28 Feb<br>
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Thanks Avri,<br>
<br>
This is disturbing news. Hope you can get a
quorum of the brainy people<br>
in the group to create a sound response. I wish
I was thirty years<br>
younger. Looking forward to discussions.<br>
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Best<br>
<br>
Lou<br>
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On 2/13/2013 2:44 PM, Avri Doria wrote:<br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> During yesterday's meeting we discussed the
irem on the g-cpuncil agenda<br>
> pertaining to special protection for IGO,
given the deadline of 28 Feb for<br>
> Board consideration of yet another
preemptive assignment of an entitlement<br>
> to protection, as was done for the RCRC and
IOC.<br>
><br>
> It appears that Thomas is planning to
suggest that the GNSO support a<br>
> decision by the Board granting entitlements
to IGO names as suggest by the<br>
> GAC.<br>
><br>
> Unfortunately Evan and I were the only one
to speak out agains the board<br>
> making the decisions at this time because:<br>
><br>
> A. it is not the same as the RCRC/IOC case
since a PDP is ongoing and this<br>
> prejudices that work<br>
> B. It is not an emergency<br>
><br>
> But Alan, the IOC and the Greg Shatan (IGO)
spoke in favor of getting this<br>
> new entitlement as soon as possible, so the
recommendation from Thomas<br>
> will be for the creation of the new
entitlements, once again preempting<br>
> the rule of PDP.<br>
><br>
> Note: Alan also suggested that if we don't
like this or the previous<br>
> RCRC/IOC entitlement decision, we should
file a reconsideration. For<br>
> once, I agree with him.<br>
><br>
> I would also note that no one from the RrSg
or RySG ventured an opinion.<br>
><br>
> At this point we have, perhaps, until 28
Feb to file a statement rejecting<br>
> yet another attack against the Rule of
PDP. Should we be working on one?<br>
><br>
> Also should we file a request for
reconsideration of the previous decision<br>
> on RCRC and IOC? I am less sure about this
because since there was no PDP<br>
> in process at the time. While the best
thing for the Board to have done<br>
> would have been to request a PDP, there was
no rule that barred them from<br>
> the making a preemptive decision as they
did. Yes it is against the pubic<br>
> interest in that it erodes the confidence
in the ICANN and its processes,<br>
> but it is not prevented by the bylaws.<br>
><br>
> avri<br>
><br>
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