<div dir="ltr"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">Dear all,</font><div><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="verdana,sans-serif">Regarding the invasion of privacy and apps that upload your contacts to a crowdsourced database...</font></div>
<div><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><br></font></div><div style><font face="verdana, sans-serif">I strongly believe that we should create the opportunity to educate people regarding what they can and cannot do in order for their privacy to be "safe"; here I am not talking about governments, I am talking about organizations that develop such apps.</font></div>
<div style><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div style><font face="verdana, sans-serif">On the other hand, it is also important to know and realize that even if I am careful with what I share, that doesn't mean that my friends/colleagues/buddies are as careful as I am.</font></div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Carl Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lectriclou@hotmail.com" target="_blank">lectriclou@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
It's good to hear some positive news.<br>
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Thanks to all for the hard work. Let's keep the momentum moving forward.<br>
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On 2/3/2013 4:01 AM, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote:<br>
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Hi Alain,<br>
I want to join Avri in her positive comment on the outcome of the LA meeting. On the one hand it was crazy to sit 30 hours in planes for 20 hours of meetings & briefings. However it was worth and has helped to create a much more constructive collaborative climate between the two SGs, within our own SG community and with ICANN Staff.<br>
I want to congratulate you also for your outreach plan. As already discussed with Klaus, I see here a lot of potential to bring expertise both from NPOC and NCUC together to strengthen our SG as a whole, in particular with the practical projects as papers, webinars and workshops/conferences.<br>
My concrete proposal is - and I made this already before I saw your paper in our NCUC meeting - to organize a monthly NCSG webinar (in cooperation with ICANN Staff to use their facilities) on ICANN related policy issues which would be open for the whole ICANN community (and beyond). We could agree until Beijng on a list of ten themes (and lecturers) for 2013/2014 and announce this with concrete dates during the Public Forum. I would volunteer to give a webinar in fall 2013 on "WCIT, WTPF, WTDC: Can ICANN and ITU develop a constructive collaboration in the Internet Governance Eco-System?"<br>
We could agree also on a joint paper series as a follow up to your project with UNCTAD.<br>
We should also start to think about joint workshop proposals for IGF in Bali (and probably for regional IGFs as EURODIG in Lisbon in June) to bring issues of special interests for non-commercial users to the agenda and to link more NGOs to the process. I hope also that Klaus engagement in the German IGF (June 3) will be useful at the national level.<br>
Best wishes<br>
wolfgang<br>
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Von: NCSG-Discuss im Auftrag von Avri Doria<br>
Gesendet: Sa 02.02.2013 20:52<br>
An: <a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
Betreff: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] WEF Background Paper<br>
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Hi Alain.<br>
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I agree, the meeting was quite good for both the NCSG and bring all of the all of its NCU/NGO/NFP/academic&activist participants together.<br>
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I also like the view we were able to get of how ICANN is changing and of the direction in which Fadi seems to be facing.<br>
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I also appreciated some of bits of agreement that we were able to reach with the other Non Contract Party SG. I even appreciated the clarity with which some areas of agreement and disagreement we have with some of the constituencies in the CSG were able to be discussed.<br>
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It was a good trip.<br>
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Of course we probably also owe this list a more comprehensive report. Maybe our leaders can work together to produce one.<br>
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avri<br>
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On 2 Feb 2013, at 08:48, Alain Berranger wrote:<br>
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Thanks Kathy,<br>
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It was a good meeting. For me it was about an opportunity to start some NPOC team building. Secondly, it was the very first time in my opininon that NCSG leadership came together and a climate of trust clearly set in so that from here on we will together move the non-commercial issues forward. We have a lot of work to do together, for instance getting NGO/NFP Engagement on the same level at ICANN as Government Engagement and Business Engagement. With the NCSG getting its act together, we have removed a barrier to ICANN creating a dedicated senior post for NGO/NPF Engagement.<br>
Also, the LA meeting was an opportunity to reach to CSG and its Constituencies leadership and to establish perhaps that a win for one side is not always a loss for the other and that NCHP has a role to play in advancing a number of higher level debates to make ICANN stronger in the end.<br>
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Alain<br>
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On Friday, February 1, 2013, Kathy Kleiman wrote:<br>
Hi All,<br>
I have not yet read the attached paper, but it is a background paper that Fadi received at the World Economic Forum in Davos. Fadi was in a meeting on user data and privacy, and found himself speaking for users (those whose data is captured). Hooray!<br>
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A good intersessional meeting in LA. A new experiment on having the Noncommercial and Commercial meet together for meetings on both policy issues, and administrative issues (for growth and operation of our Stakeholder and constituency groups). I hope others will comment. I found it very valuable -- and think we have a great NCSG team!<br>
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Best,<br>
Kathy<br>
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