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I agree, Alain. Especially with all of the heightened concern lately regarding ICANN's lax ethical standards for conflicts of interest, it is deeply troubling that the GNSO Council allowed this motion to go forward under these circumstances (and was led by staff to do it). I also agree that this matter should be referred to SCI and I expect the press will take a keen interest in ICANN's decision making process that again bypasses proper process to achieve a desired result for the benefit of a few, but powerful, interests.<div><br></div><div>Robin</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Dec 20, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Alain Berranger wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Dear Colleagues,<div><br></div><div>In general I find it hard to imagine that the GNSO Council should/would vote again if the motion has been re-tabled as it was when rejected... Perhaps better to wait for Standing Committee on GNSO Improvements Implementation (SCI) to look at the situation?</div> <div><br></div><div>Alain<br> <br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 2:33 PM, joy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joy@apc.org" target="_blank">joy@apc.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br> Hash: SHA1<br> <br> Dear colleagues,<br> We have had this approach from a fellow GNSO Councillor.<br> Please share your views to help guide us. At the NCSG meeting<br> yesterday (MP3 recording circulated yesterday by Robin) we agreed to<br> raise a number of procedural concerns about this re-tabled motion, to<br> make the point we vigorously oppose it, but we did not agree to<br> request a deferral (a course of action I would not support).<br> Views?<br> Joy<br> <br> <br> <br> - -------- Original Message --------<br> Subject: IOC/RC<br> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:26:31 -0800<br> From: Mason Cole <<a href="mailto:mcole@5x5com.com" target="_blank">mcole@5x5com.com</a>><br> To: David Cake <<a href="mailto:dave@difference.com.au" target="_blank">dave@difference.com.au</a>>, Maria Farrell<br> <<a href="mailto:maria.farrell@gmail.com" target="_blank">maria.farrell@gmail.com</a>>, "Joy Liddicoat (<a href="mailto:joy@apc.org" target="_blank">joy@apc.org</a>)"<br> <<a href="mailto:joy@apc.org" target="_blank">joy@apc.org</a>>, Magaly <<a href="mailto:mpazello@e-fem.net" target="_blank">mpazello@e-fem.net</a>>, Wendy Seltzer<br> <<a href="mailto:wendy@seltzer.com" target="_blank">wendy@seltzer.com</a>>, Wolfgang Kleinwächter<br> <<a href="mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de" target="_blank">wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de</a>><br> <br> Greetings NCSG colleagues --<br> <br> I'm writing about tomorrow's scheduled IOC/RC vote. I wanted to get<br> your temperature on this as I've been thinking about it for some time now.<br> <br> I agree with you that the position we find ourselves in now was<br> arrived at through a bad process. I'm not in favor of reconsidering<br> motions in general, and I hope the council is better educated on<br> procedure (I know I'm trying myself). I'm concerned about the<br> council's image regarding efficiency and that certainly didn't help.<br> I'm hoping we can get this voted on tomorrow and get it behind us,<br> whether the result is yea or nay. I'm concerned if someone tries to<br> defer, it will merely delay -- we've debated the issue pretty<br> thoroughly and I doubt any votes will change.<br> <br> Any thoughts on this?<br> <br> Mason<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32)<br> Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - <a href="http://www.enigmail.net/" target="_blank">http://www.enigmail.net/</a><br> <br> iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQ0haeAAoJEA9zUGgfM+bqZBoH/0gjbkRPleW5Vf303V3PzZAb<br> I8bnmbFbF27qAOS2eGhPVsmOnrBZaEGAihmPDEJFJKua0xsl+5N1zVLRgjceITPA<br> WzU1DnhABHQr02PejjDjcJyqYfzc5S85p4pJp0y+CNTNsG9DxHpqnmL5j5kLQ/Or<br> ls53tlYACaYnv6D7tWpzOpkzwUs77llcKf1lws3KK2juiwBhezqGUNt2f92bx836<br> PrMZza4GuoWGvHwytVA6JKCyygp4ogiuFblFzfMBsCZE3mc3ct4MpHXrPHlwEPqw<br> hfvH+1/D7wpDoKsDXeHVNA50la9ONY+rKczFrjzHdn/emkvo8Gs8SN4ry6OXHzc=<br> =wc/9<br> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<br> </blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA<div>Member, Board of Directors, CECI, <a href="http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/" target="_blank">http://www.ceci.ca</a><br> <div>Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, <a href="http://www.schulich.yorku.ca" target="_blank">www.schulich.yorku.ca</a></div><div>Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, <a href="http://www.gkpfoundation.org" target="_blank">www.gkpfoundation.org</a></div> <div>NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, <font color="#0a246a" face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><a href="http://www.chasquinet.org" target="_blank">www.chasquinet.org</a></font><br>Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, <a href="http://npoc.org/" target="_blank">http://npoc.org/</a><br> O:<a href="tel:%2B1%20514%20484%207824" value="+15144847824" target="_blank">+1 514 484 7824</a>; M:<a href="tel:%2B1%20514%20704%207824" value="+15147047824" target="_blank">+1 514 704 7824</a><br>Skype: alain.berranger<br> </div></div><div><br></div><div><div><br></div><div>AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALITÉ</div><div>Ce courriel est confidentiel et est à l’usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. 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