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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks David<br>
<br>
Lou<br>
<br>
On 12/10/2012 5:16 AM, David Cake wrote:<br>
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<blockquote
cite="mid:9753CF95-C053-46B5-B5F2-3A9FA359AE3D@difference.com.au"
type="cite">My *personal* opinions, that I under stand may not be
shared by others, but that I think are worth noting, as answers to
the questions below
<div>Cheers</div>
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<div>David</div>
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<div>On 08/12/2012, at 2:45 PM, William Drake wrote:</div>
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<div>Hi</div>
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<div>Our inputs are being actively solicited. There's a
group of Councilors that I believe includes Wolfgang
and Mary who've been closely engaged on this, but
other members may take an interest as well. May I
suggest that anyone who'd like to help craft a timely
and cutting ed response be in touch with them ASAP?
Let's broaden the circle of involvement if we can….</div>
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<div>Best,</div>
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<div>Bill</div>
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font-size:medium;">December 8, 2012 12:33:11 AM
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font-size:medium;">William Drake <<a
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href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>><br>
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font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>Cc:
</b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';
font-size:medium;">Robin Gross <<a
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href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a>>,
Berry Cobb Mail <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mail@berrycobb.com">mail@berrycobb.com</a>>,
Brian Peck <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:brian.peck@icann.org">brian.peck@icann.org</a>>,
"<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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</b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';
font-size:medium;"><b>Input requested for PDP on
the Protection of IGO and INGO Identifiers in
all gTLDs (IGO-INGO)</b><br>
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lang="EN-US">The PDP Working Group on the
Protection of IGO and INGO Identifiers in
all gTLDs (IGO-INGO) would appreciate the
NCUC’s input through the attached Input
Template also in text below:<span
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Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US">Stakeholder Group /
Constituency / Input Template<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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of IGO and INGO Identifiers in all
gTLDs Working Group<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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YOUR RESPONSE AT THE LATEST BY<b><span
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January 2013</u></b><span
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THE GNSO SECRETARIAT (</span><u><span
style="color: blue; "><a
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style="color: blue; text-decoration:
underline; "><span lang="EN-US">gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org</span></a></span></u><span
lang="EN-US">), which will forward your
statement to the Working Group.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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style="font-size: 11pt; " lang="EN-US">The
GNSO Council has formed a Working Group of
interested stakeholders and Stakeholder
Group / Constituency representatives, to
collaborate broadly with knowledgeable
individuals and organizations, in order to
consider recommendations in relation to
the protection of names, designations and
acronyms, hereinafter referred to as
“identifiers”, of intergovernmental
organizations (IGO’s) and international
non-governmental organizations (INGO’s)<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
style="font-size: 11.5pt; " lang="EN-US">receiving
protections under treaties and statutes
under multiple jurisdictions.</span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom:
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Working Group’s effort will be to
incorporate ideas and suggestions gathered
from Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies
through this template Statement.
Inserting your response in this form will
make it much easier for the Working Group
to summarize the responses for analysis.
This information is helpful to the
community in understanding the points of
view of various stakeholders. However, you
should feel free to add any information
you deem important to inform the Working
Group’s deliberations, even if this does
not fit into any of the questions listed
below.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom:
0.0001pt; text-align: justify; "><span
lang="EN-US">For further information,
please visit the WG Webpage and Workspace:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<ul style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top:
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style="color: blue; text-decoration:
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lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></li>
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style="color: blue; text-decoration:
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lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></li>
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lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 18pt;
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text-indent: -18pt; "><span lang="EN-US"><span>-<span
style="font: normal normal normal
7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
lang="EN-US">Please identify the member(s)
of your Stakeholder Group / Constituency
who is (are) participating in this Working
Group<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 18pt;
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text-indent: -18pt; "><span lang="EN-US"><span>-<span
style="font: normal normal normal
7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
lang="EN-US">Please identify the members
of your Stakeholder Group / Constituency
who participated in developing the
perspective(s) set forth below<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle"
style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 18pt;
font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
text-indent: -18pt; "><span lang="EN-US"><span>-<span
style="font: normal normal normal
7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
lang="EN-US">Please describe the process
by which your Stakeholder Group /
Constituency arrived at the perspective(s)
set forth below<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom:
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lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom:
0.0001pt; "><b><span lang="EN-US">Below are
elements of the approved charter that
the WG has been tasked to address:<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom:
0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US">As part of
its deliberations on the first issue as to
whether there is a need for special
protections for IGO and INGO organizations
at the top and second level in all gTLDs
(existing and new), the PDP WG should, at
a minimum, consider the following elements
as detailed in the Final Issue Report:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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"><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
lang="EN-US"><span>·<span style="font:
normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times
New Roman'; "> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
lang="EN-US">Quantifying the Entities
whose names may be Considered for Special
Protection<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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"><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
lang="EN-US"><span>·<span style="font:
normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times
New Roman'; "> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
lang="EN-US">Evaluating the Scope of
Existing Protections under International
Treaties/Laws for the IGO-INGO
organizations concerned;<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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"><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
lang="EN-US"><span>·<span style="font:
normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times
New Roman'; "> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
lang="EN-US">Establishing Qualification
Criteria for Special Protection of names
of the IGO and INGO organizations
concerned;<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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"><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
lang="EN-US"><span>·<span style="font:
normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times
New Roman'; "> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
lang="EN-US">Distinguishing any
Substantive Differences between the RCRC
and IOC designations from those of other
IGO-INGO Organizations.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom:
0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom:
0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US">Should the
PDP WG reach consensus on a recommendation
that there is a need for special
protections at the top and second levels
in all existing and new gTLDs for IGO and
INGO organization identifiers, the PDP WG
is expected to:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom:
0.0001pt; text-align: justify; "><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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"><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
lang="EN-US"><span>·<span style="font:
normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times
New Roman'; "> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
lang="EN-US">Develop specific
recommendations for appropriate special
protections, if any, for the identifiers
of any or all IGO and INGO organizations
at the first and second levels.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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"><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
lang="EN-US"><span>·<span style="font:
normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times
New Roman'; "> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
lang="EN-US">Determine the appropriate
protections, if any, for RCRC and IOC
names at the second level for the initial
round of new gTLDs and make
recommendations on the implementation of
such protection.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm;
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"><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
lang="EN-US"><span>·<span style="font:
normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times
New Roman'; "> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
lang="EN-US">Determine whether the current
special protections being provided to RCRC
and IOC names at the top and second level
of the initial round of new gTLDs should
be made permanent for RCRC and IOC names
in all gTLDs; if so, determine whether the
existing protections are sufficient and
comprehensive; if not, develop specific
recommendations for appropriate special
protections (if any) for these
identifiers.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom:
0.0001pt; text-align: justify; "><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom:
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to Consider:<o:p></o:p></b></div>
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sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom:
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"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US"><span>1.<span
style="font: normal normal normal
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class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US">What
kinds of entities should be considered for
Special Protections at the top and second
level in all gTLDs (existing and new)?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
36pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -18pt;
"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<div>There are two elements that need to be satisfied in
order for Special Protections to apply.</div>
<div>The first is that there are legal basis for
International protection of a particular string. </div>
<div>The second is that the legal rights covering the string
are not provided by existing protection mechanisms (and
are not best satisfied by small changes to existing
protection mechanisms). </div>
<div>So the IOC, ICRC, and IGO/INGOs are perhaps examples
where we should consider the need for Special Protection,
but unless it can be shown that rights beyond those
already granted by existing RPMs are necessary they should
not necessarily be granted. Special Protection should be
considered only when options for granting protection via
all existing RPMs have been exhausted. I do not believe
this has been shown for any of the above entities yet
(though it is my expectation that the ICRC is likely to be
able to make that case in a full PDP process). </div>
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style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US">What
facts or law are you aware of which might
form an objective basis for Special
Protections under International
Treaties/Domestic Laws for IGOs, INGOs as
they may relate to gTLDs and the DNS?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Personally, I am aware of the Geneva convention in the case
of the ICRC, and the range of accompanying legislation.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It should be noted that the Treaty of Nairobi does NOT
form an objective basis for special protection, nor does the
legislation protecting the national use of IOC marks at the
national level as implemented by a range of governments
(primarily past Olympic host nations). </div>
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"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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style="font: normal normal normal
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class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US">Do you
have opinions about what criteria should
be used for Special Protection of the IGO
and INGO identifiers?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
36pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US">Group
View:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
36pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US"><span>4.<span
style="font: normal normal normal
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class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US">Do you
think there are substantive differences
between the RCRC/IOC and IGOs and INGOs?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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There are substantive, significant, differences between the
ICRC and the IOCs claims, and between IGOs and INGOs. </div>
<div>In particular, only the ICRC has the power to prevent
registration of trademarks for uses unrelated to its own
use. Eg. trademarks unrelated to sporting competition exist
on the word Olympic, and the IOC does not have the power to
prevent their use in commerce, and trademarks on terms that
are concidentally connected with IGOs/INGOs exist (for
example, trademarks exist on the use of the term WHO despite
the World Health Organisation) and the corresponding
organisations are not able to prevent their use in
legitimate commerce. Accordingly, while RPMs may certainly
apply to protect inappropriate use, Special Protection is
inappropriate. </div>
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<p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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style="font: normal normal normal
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class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US">Should
appropriate Special Protections at the top
and second level for the identifiers of
IGOs and INGOs be made?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
36pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US">Group
View:</span></p>
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<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Appropriate
measures should be in place, whether Special Protections are
necessary should be the outcome of a policy process. </div>
<div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Currently,
I do not believe the case has been made. Arguments have
primarily focussed on cost minimisation for IGOs and INGOs,
which is an argument that should not be used to overrule
legitimate uses of trademarks by others. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
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style="font-family: Times; font-size: 13px; "><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; " lang="EN-US"><span>6.<span
style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal
'Times New Roman'; "> </span></span></span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; " lang="EN-US">In addition, should
Special Protections for the identifiers of IGOs
and INGOs at the second level be in place for
the initial round of new gTLDs?</span></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:
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normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2;
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style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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<p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US">Group
View:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
36pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Times;
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US"><span>7.<span
style="font: normal normal normal
7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US">Should
the current Special Protections provided
to the RCRC and IOC names at the top and
second level of the initial round for new
gTLDs be made permanent in all gTLDs and
if not, what specific recommendations for
appropriate Special Protections (if any)
do you have?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div><br>
</div>
<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>These
current Special Protections are not based on a full
examination of all appropriate rights (that the IOC and
ICRC, whose claims are based on extremely different legal
bases, are considered identically is clear proof). They
should be considered a stop-gap measure to be replaced by
the results of a more thorough process as soon as practical.
They should be renewed only after a full examination of the
legal bases for their claims and how they compare to
existing RPMs. <br>
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style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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<p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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<p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US"><span>8.<span
style="font: normal normal normal
7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US">Do you
feel existing RPMs or proposed RPMs for
the new gTLD program are adequate to offer
protections to IGO and INGOs
(understanding that UDRP and TMCH may not
be eligible for all IGOs and INGOs)?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US">Group
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<div><br>
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<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>UDRP
(and URS) should not be exclusive for trademark rights, but
should include other rights.</div>
<div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>But
with minor changes such as this, RPMs should be sufficient
for the majority of IGOs and INGOs. </div>
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style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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text-align: justify; "><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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text-align: justify; "><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom:
0.0001pt; text-align: justify; "><b><span
lang="EN-US">For further background
information on the WG’s activities to
date, please see:<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom:
0.0001pt; text-align: justify; "><b><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></div>
<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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"><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
lang="EN-US"><span>·<span style="font:
normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times
New Roman'; "> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
class="MsoHyperlink" style="color: blue;
text-decoration: underline; "><span
style="color: windowtext;
text-decoration: none; " lang="EN-US">Protections
of IGO and INGO identifiers in all gTLDs
web page<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span
lang="EN-US">(see<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
class="MsoHyperlink" style="color: blue;
text-decoration: underline; "><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/protection-igo-names.htm"
style="color: blue; text-decoration:
underline; "><span lang="EN-US">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/protection-igo-names.htm</span></a></span><span
lang="EN-US">).<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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"><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
lang="EN-US"><span>·<span style="font:
normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times
New Roman'; "> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
lang="EN-US">Protection of International
Organization Names Final Issue Report, for
insight into the current practices and
issues experienced (see</span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/protection-igo-names-final-issue-report-01oct12-en.pdf"
style="color: blue; text-decoration:
underline; "><span lang="EN-US">http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/protection-igo-names-final-issue-report-01oct12-en.pdf</span></a><span
lang="EN-US">).<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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"><span style="font-family: Symbol; "
lang="EN-US"><span>·<span style="font:
normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times
New Roman'; "> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
lang="EN-US">The IOC/RCRC DT page is also
a good reference for how those efforts
were combined with this PDP (see<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/red-cross-ioc.htm"
style="color: blue; text-decoration:
underline; "><span lang="EN-US">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/red-cross-ioc.htm</span></a><span
lang="EN-US">).<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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text-align: justify; "><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom:
0.0001pt; ">Glen de Saint Géry<o:p></o:p></div>
<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom:
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href="mailto:gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org"
style="color: blue; text-decoration:
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<div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left:
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0.0001pt; "><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://gnso.icann.org/"
style="color: blue; text-decoration:
underline; ">http://gnso.icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></div>
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