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<DIV>Dear Maria</DIV>
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<DIV>Greetings. I have made my contribution in form of a paper that Prof. Michel
Menou and myself had published some time ago but which seems still highly
relevant on the subject. I had distributed and made available during ICANN 45.
It’s attached again.</DIV>
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<DIV>Yours</DIV>
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<DIV>Klaus</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=alain.berranger@GMAIL.COM
href="mailto:alain.berranger@GMAIL.COM">Alain Berranger</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 01, 2012 10:59 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: AW: [NCSG-Discuss] Draft comment on Cyber-Cafe
constituency application for approval</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none">Sorry
for belated response, Maria:
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<DIV>Given the very reasonable time that NPOC members have now had and the
support for that statement by Olévié (from Togo, Afrique de l'Ouest) where
telecentres and cyber cafés are very important for many underserviced
communities) and myself, with the rest of the NPOC Constituency having remained
silent (which I consider tacit approval on a non-objection basis), I can
comfortably say that NPOC supports Maria's statement.</DIV>
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<DIV>Best, Alain<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Maria Farrell <SPAN
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target=_blank>maria.farrell@gmail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>+1 from me. <BR><BR>Alain - can you bring along the rest of
your constituency in time for the deadline or add your support post hoc?<SPAN
class=HOEnZb><FONT color=#888888><BR><BR>Maria</FONT></SPAN>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On 18 November 2012 10:01, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang"
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href="mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de"
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class=gmail_quote>+1<BR><BR>wolfgang<BR><BR><BR>________________________________<BR><BR>Von:
William Drake [mailto:<A href="mailto:william.drake@UZH.CH"
target=_blank>william.drake@UZH.CH</A>]<BR>Gesendet: So 18.11.2012
10:20<BR>An: <A href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU"
target=_blank>NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</A><BR>Betreff: Re:
[NCSG-Discuss] Draft comment on Cyber-Cafe constituency application for
approval<BR>
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<DIV><BR><BR><BR>+ 1<BR><BR>Bill<BR><BR>On Nov 17, 2012, at 20:35, Wendy
Seltzer <<A href="mailto:wendy@SELTZER.COM"
target=_blank>wendy@SELTZER.COM</A>> wrote:<BR><BR>> Thanks
Mary,<BR>> I'd support this individually, and like the approach of a
joint<BR>> NCUC/NPOC comment (or later endorsement, depending on
timing).<BR>><BR>> --Wendy<BR>><BR>> On 11/17/2012 11:53 AM,
Maria Farrell wrote:<BR>>> Does it make sense, then, to submit the
piece as a joint ncuc/npoc comment,<BR>>> and not an ncsg
one?<BR>>><BR>>> I'd support that, as an ncuc
member.<BR>>><BR>>> On 17 November 2012 15:39, Alain Berranger
<<A href="mailto:alain.berranger@gmail.com"
target=_blank>alain.berranger@gmail.com</A>>wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>>
Hi Mary,<BR>>>><BR>>>> Thanks a lot for an excellent
statement.<BR>>>> On a personal basis, I agree with much of the
spirit of your proposed<BR>>>> comment and take the opportunity to
run it by NPOC-voice to solicit an NPOC<BR>>>> wide view. However,
as Avri points out, the NCSG-EC has to decide on a<BR>>>>
recommendation to the Board as per the timeline Robin indicated. So,
it<BR>>>> seems inappropriate for NCSG-EC to make a public comment
at this early<BR>>>> stage such as the one you suggest or any other
one for that matter, as it<BR>>>> would essentially have the effect
of making a decision regarding the<BR>>>> application during the
public comment period.<BR>>>><BR>>>> There are 2 points I
would like to raise:<BR>>>><BR>>>> 1) telecentres for
social purposes, usually located in schools, clinics,<BR>>>>
community centers, remote villages, etc... - for instance
see<BR>>>> <A href="http://www.telecentre.org/"
target=_blank>http://www.telecentre.org/</A> for a look inside the
Telecentre movement -<BR>>>> are non-commercial public access
Internet points (PIAPs) while cybercafés<BR>>>> are essentially
commercial, even if located in very poor and under serviced<BR>>>>
areas, because they are mostly entrepreneurial in their organization,
with<BR>>>> a livelihood or profit making purpose. The former could
be housed in NCSG<BR>>>> (as Members) while the latter could be
welcomed into CSG.<BR>>>> 2) we should distinguish between the
proponent and it's adequacy to be the<BR>>>> leader of the creation
of a new constituency and the need for a new<BR>>>> constituency.
If it is confirmed that there is a need for some kind of a<BR>>>>
new constituency, then NCSG-EC has to also decide on it's
recommendation<BR>>>> regarding if the proponent is likely to
adequately lead the creation of<BR>>>> that new
constituency.<BR>>>><BR>>>> I hope this helps!
Alain<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>> On Saturday, November
17, 2012, wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>> Hello
everyone,<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> Since today is the last
day for public comment on the proposed new<BR>>>>> cybercafe
constituency and nothing has been sent in, I took the liberty
of<BR>>>>> composing something brief that I hope members can
approve. I've done so as<BR>>>>> many members have expressed
firm opinions about this issue, and it is<BR>>>>> important that
NCSG sends in a comment, especially since the group is<BR>>>>>
applying to join NCSG.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> The proposed
comment follow; if there is no objection by the end of
the<BR>>>>> day, I propose to file it on behalf of NCSG. Thanks
everyone!<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> "The Non-Commercial
Stakeholder Group (NCSG) is pleased to see that<BR>>>>> there is
increased interest from developing regions in ICANN
participation.<BR>>>>> Having long been the most-diverse
(geographically and ethnically)<BR>>>>> stakeholder group within
not just the GNSO but ICANN as well, we have<BR>>>>> always made
outreach, accessibility and engagement part of our mission
and<BR>>>>> have as a result welcomed numerous new individual
and organizational<BR>>>>> members from across the globe into
our membership, including through the<BR>>>>> GNSO's newest
constituency, the Not for Profit Operational Concerns
(NPOC)<BR>>>>>
constituency.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> There is consensus in
the NCSG - from both NPOC and Non-Commerciaul<BR>>>>> Users
Constituency (NCUC) members - that the new CCAOI application
for<BR>>>>> constituency status belongs not in the NCSG but in
the Commercial<BR>>>>> Stakeholders Group (CSG). We have
carefully reviewed all the documents and<BR>>>>> information
provided in the CCAOI's application, and believe that it is
a<BR>>>>> commercial organization whose operations do not fit
within NCSG's formal<BR>>>>> charter or
objectives.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> The CCAOI's stated
reason for applying to join NCSG is that it is a<BR>>>>>
non-profit organization which among its activities promotes public
interest<BR>>>>> goals of education and access. While non-profit
organizations are members<BR>>>>> of NCSG's NPOC constituency,
NPOC members must first and continue to be<BR>>>>> NCSG members
as well, i.e., remain resolutely non-commercial in their<BR>>>>>
focus. The fact that individual cybercafes within the wider
CCAOI<BR>>>>> organization may not charge fees to their users
does not by itself make<BR>>>>> either these cybercafes or the
CCAOI itself a non-commercial organization.<BR>>>>> Rather, we
note from its application that its members include also<BR>>>>>
"e-commerce service providers", "Internet solution providers"
and<BR>>>>> entrepreneurs, and its plans include the use of a
mobile payment platform<BR>>>>> to alleviate the problem of low
credit card usage and cash safety.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
We therefore believe that the proper place within the current
GNSO<BR>>>>> framework for CCAOI is the CSG. The fact that the
CSG's rigid constituency<BR>>>>> structures may mean that CCAOI
could potentially belong to either the<BR>>>>> Internet Service
Providers (ISP) constituency or the Business
Constituency<BR>>>>> (BC), or that either of these groups may
need to modify its charter to<BR>>>>> allow a commercial
organization of CCAOI's nature to apply, is not NCSG'<BR>>>>>
concern or issue. Similarly, if the GNSO's own structure requires change
in<BR>>>>> order to accommodate a diverse organization such as
CCAOI, it is not a<BR>>>>> solution to just put them in the NCSG
simply because we are the most<BR>>>>> flexible and open GNSO
stakeholder group. These limitations are problems<BR>>>>> that
are neither the fault of CCAOI or NCSG, and should if necessary
be<BR>>>>> addressed by the GNSO as a whole and perhaps also the
ICANN Board's own<BR>>>>> Structural Improvements Committee
(SIC), who had worked with the fledgling<BR>>>>> NCSG to develop
a charter that reflected non-commercial values and<BR>>>>>
interests.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> Should this not be
feasible, NCSG believes that those members and<BR>>>>> elements
of CCAOI that are purely non-commercial could individually
join<BR>>>>> NCSG. As a representative organization that has
clearly commercial sources<BR>>>>> of funding and for-profit
members, however, CCAOI as it is currently<BR>>>>> constituted
clearly does not belong within NCSG.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
Respectfully submitted,<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> The
Non-Commercial Stakeholder
Group"<BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
Mary W S Wong<BR>>>>> Professor of Law<BR>>>>>
Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP<BR>>>>> Chair, Graduate
IP Programs<BR>>>>> UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF
LAW<BR>>>>> Two White Street<BR>>>>> Concord, NH
03301<BR>>>>> USA<BR>>>>> Email: <A
href="mailto:mary.wong@law.unh.edu"
target=_blank>mary.wong@law.unh.edu</A><BR>>>>> Phone: <A
href="tel:1-603-513-5143" target=_blank
value="+16035135143">1-603-513-5143</A><BR>>>>> Webpage: <A
href="http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php"
target=_blank>http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php</A><BR>>>>>
Selected writings available on the Social Science Research Network
(SSRN)<BR>>>>> at: <A href="http://ssrn.com/author=437584"
target=_blank>http://ssrn.com/author=437584</A><BR>>>><BR>>>>
--<BR>>>> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA<BR></DIV></DIV>>>>
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