Norbert et al,<div><br></div><span class="Apple-style-span" style>"Is NPOC an organization sheltering for-profits?"</span><div><br></div><div>No, NPOC houses NFPs. However it is welcoming to Multi-sectorial communities like the Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation for instance where the three sectors (civil society, public and private) cohabit for social inclusion and not for profit objectives. NCSG membership criteria apply to all NPOC prospective members, so we could not welcome CCAOI without blessing from the NCSG-EC. Welcoming CCAOI is one issue, assessing the need for the new proposed constituency is another.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I think CCAOI should be welcomed by ICANN as a member "somewhere" but that is not what they are asking for.<span></span></div><div><br></div><div>Alain <br><br>On Thursday, October 11, 2012, Norbert Klein wrote:<br>
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discussion?
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<div>From the application documents, looks like they are trying to
create an association, rather than being an already established
group. </div>
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<div>Perhaps as a member of NPOC rather than a new constituency?</div>
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Is NPOC an organization sheltering for-profits?<br>
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On Thursday, October 11, 2012, Marc Perkel wrote:<br>
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Non-Commercial means non-commercial. So the for profit can go
somewhere else.<br>
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On 10/10/2012 8:42 PM, Andrew A. Adams wrote:<br>
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ICANN's Silo model indeed produces a problem for this group.
I think what<br>
they really need to do is split themselves for the purposes
of ICANN formal<br>
structures into two groups: "non-profit Public Internet
Access" and<br>
"Cyber-cafes and other commercial shared computer access
providers", apply<br>
for NCSG/CSG group membership but agree amongst themselves
that they will<br>
coordinate strongly between them on promoting the clear
common interests such<br>
a group has.<br>
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I'm afraid I could not support the inclusion of for-profit
access providers<br>
in an NCSG constituency as it violates the non-commercial
principle of SG<br>
membership.<br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br>-- <br>Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA<div>Member, Board of Directors, CECI, <a href="http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/" target="_blank">http://www.ceci.ca</a><br><div>Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, <a href="http://www.schulich.yorku.ca" target="_blank">www.schulich.yorku.ca</a></div>
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