<font face="verdana,sans-serif">If I learned something by being a techie, is to expect the unexpected; literally from anyone.</font><div><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="verdana,sans-serif">From the reasons behind their objections, for me it seems like currently, online, there is no sex or gambling or anything at all related to babies online.</font></div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Avri Doria <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">> On the other hand, it seems like the potential of the new gTLDs is still a bit misunderstood, simply because some "techies" believe that ICANN is creating new "Internets".<br>
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</div>I would be shocked if there was a single Internet technical person on the planet who thought that the creation of new gTLDs was the creation of new Internets<br>
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On 15 Aug 2012, at 21:50, Andrei Barburas wrote:<br>
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</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">> While the situation indeed is a bit "sad", I don't think it's unmanageable.<br>
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> What can also be mentioned is that the potential registrars of these gTLDs are respectable organizations (.baby, .virgin, etc).<br>
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> On the other hand, it seems like the potential of the new gTLDs is still a bit misunderstood, simply because some "techies" believe that ICANN is creating new "Internets".<br>
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> Just because there will be no gTLD like for example, .buddha, that doesn't mean that people will not be able to find information about Buddha. The same applies to gambling, sex, poker, tattoos and pretty much all the "moral grounds" the KSA based its objections.<br>
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> Cheers,<br>
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> Andrei Barburas<br>
> Community Relations Services Officer<br>
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> People ICT Development<br>
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> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu">mueller@syr.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
> This link doesn't get you directly to the article. I had to search for "ICANN" within the site<br>
> Maybe this link will work: <a href="http://www.electronista.com/articles/12/08/14/icann.receives.registration.complaints.on.moral.health.grounds/#ixzz23drBbmjd" target="_blank">http://www.electronista.com/articles/12/08/14/icann.receives.registration.complaints.on.moral.health.grounds/#ixzz23drBbmjd</a><br>
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> Once you get there, it is a good example of how GAC facilitates a censorship mentality. The Saudis should be publicly ridiculed for their absurd and restrictive ideas; they seem to think that because they have dirty minds they have the right to impute their own wild associations to the rest of us. For example, they objected to Johnson & Johnson's .baby because "there is a risk that this string is used in the same way as .XXX to host pornographic websites."<br>
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> Yes, and there is a risk that KSA might be used by someone as an acronym for Kiss my Ass. So Maybe the name of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia should be banned...<br>
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> > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > From: NCSG-Discuss [mailto:<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>] On Behalf<br>
> > Of Horacio T. Cadiz<br>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 12:39 AM<br>
> > To: <a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
> > Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Saudi Arabia objects to some new gTLDs<br>
> ><br>
> > We've been discussing new gTLDs and HR. Milton objected to the<br>
> > statement: "Consideration of applications for new TLDs should be<br>
> > mindful of sensitivities."<br>
> ><br>
> > KSA objects to .virgin, .baby, and others<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="http://www.electronista.com/articles/12/0/14/icann.receives.registration.co" target="_blank">http://www.electronista.com/articles/12/0/14/icann.receives.registration.co</a><br>
> > mplaints.on.moral.health.grounds/<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > The sensitivities of the KSA have been aroused.<br>
> ><br>
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