<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:52 AM, McTim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com" target="_blank">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Alex Gakuru <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gakuru@gmail.com" target="_blank">gakuru@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:44 AM, McTim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com" target="_blank">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 5:06 AM, Alex Gakuru <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gakuru@gmail.com" target="_blank">gakuru@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Great development, for the technical side of the Internet. Unfortunately AFRINIC, historically most shy to Human Rights,</blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>How is the most inclusive bottom-up open and transparent IG mechanism we have in Africa "most shy" to HR??</div>
</div></blockquote></div><div><br>Who are their HR people?<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>You and me and everyone else interested in making policy. WE make policy, the NIC just does what we tell them in terms of policy.</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br>Mailing lists can/are open but effective policy influence is achieved with representation on the policy making table. Their 6-person BOD structure <a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/our-structure/bod" target="_blank">http://www.afrinic.net/en/our-structure/bod</a> of Eastern Africa(1), Indian Ocean(1), Northern Africa(1), Western Africa(1), Central Africa(1), Southern Africa(1) are business, ccTLDs and government persons. It does not provide for civil society representatives. Or would I be missing one (including on the listed past) BOD members?<br>
<br>The internet was once controlled by engineers before lawyers snatched it from them. Assertive global civil society raised its and had to be accommodated. Now Africa's Civil Society has risen up and is demanding a say on how Africa (and global) Internet is managed, for example, <a href="http://netizenproject.org/2012/08/05/pan-african-civil-society-on-who-controls-the-internet/">http://netizenproject.org/2012/08/05/pan-african-civil-society-on-who-controls-the-internet/</a><br>
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<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> is the wrong (or not) best vehicle to carry Civil Society and its multi-stakeholder bar.<br></blockquote>
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<br></div></div><div>It is AfrICANN, not AfrINIC that is the vehicle for this.</div><span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div></font></span></div></blockquote></div><div> You mean AfrICANN is incorporated distinctly separate from AFRINIC? I always considered it just another mailing list hosted by AFRINIC.<br>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div>It is a mailing list. It is hosted by the NIC, but they have nothing whatsoever to do with AFRICANN folk self-organised activities. They do not moderate or actively participate, they just provide (free) hosting.</div>
</div><div><div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Cheers,<br><br>McTim<br>"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel<br>
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