Hi - <div><br></div><div>I don't know if I am opening a can of worms here, but the term "non-profit" has different meanings in different contexts and jurisdictions. I am, therefore, curious if there is a ICANN approved definition of what 'non-profit' is... Does anyone know? </div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Alex Gakuru <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gakuru@gmail.com" target="_blank">gakuru@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Joly,<br>
<br>
I am trying really hard to avoid being slammed with a MOPO-like kind<br>
of subsequent accusations, here.<br>
<br>
Thanks for understanding,<br>
<br>
Alex<br>
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On 7/6/12, Joly MacFie <<a href="mailto:joly@punkcast.com">joly@punkcast.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Which forced marriage do you have in mind, Alex?<br>
><br>
> j<br>
><br>
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Alex Gakuru <<a href="mailto:gakuru@gmail.com">gakuru@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Deep down here in Africa many NGOs champion against forced marriages.<br>
>> But when forced marriages happen up there at ICANN who speaks against<br>
>> the practice?<br>
>><br>
>> On 7/6/12, Nuno Garcia <<a href="mailto:ngarcia@ngarcia.net">ngarcia@ngarcia.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > I have said this once: The Olympic Committee has a budget that is<br>
>> > bigger<br>
>> > than many nations' budgets. They can afford not to be for-profit. The<br>
>> same<br>
>> > goes for other organizations.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > And some statements are pure intellectual arrogance.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Best,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Nuno Garcia<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On 5 July 2012 23:16, Joly MacFie <<a href="mailto:joly@punkcast.com">joly@punkcast.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> >> But you are not disputing their facts, I take it.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> j<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Michael Carson<br>
>> >> <<a href="mailto:mcarson029@comcast.net">mcarson029@comcast.net</a>>wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >>> Alain,<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> I agree. This op-ed is just that - the opinion of two individuals.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Michael Carson<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> YMCA of the USA<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> ------------------------------<br>
>> >>> *From: *"Alain Berranger" <<a href="mailto:alain.berranger@GMAIL.COM">alain.berranger@GMAIL.COM</a>><br>
>> >>> *To: *<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
>> >>> *Sent: *Thursday, July 5, 2012 3:55:09 PM<br>
>> >>> *Subject: *Re: NYTimes: International Olympic Committee - "elitist,<br>
>> >>> domineering, and crassly commercial at its core"<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> NPOC really welcomes national Olympic committees as Members because<br>
>> >>> they<br>
>> >>> are true notforprofit organizations...<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Alain<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> On Thursday, July 5, 2012, Robin Gross wrote:<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>>> As a commercial organization that tried to join NCSG, very<br>
>> >>>> relevant…<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> No Medal for the International Olympic Committee says the New York<br>
>> >>>> Times…..<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>><br>
>> <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/05/opinion/no-medal-for-the-international-olympic-committee.html?_r=3&ref=opinion&pagewanted=print" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/05/opinion/no-medal-for-the-international-olympic-committee.html?_r=3&ref=opinion&pagewanted=print</a><br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> ------------------------------<br>
>> >>>> July 4, 2012<br>
>> >>>> **Olympian Arrogance**** By JULES BOYKOFF and ALAN TOMLINSON****<br>
>> >>>> ****<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Brighton, England<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> WHILE Europe roils in economic turmoil, London is preparing for a<br>
>> >>>> lavish<br>
>> >>>> jamboree of international good will: in a few weeks, the city will<br>
>> host<br>
>> >>>> the<br>
>> >>>> 2012 Summer Olympics.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> But behind the spectacle of athletic prowess and global harmony,<br>
>> >>>> brass-knuckle politics and brute economics reign. At this nexus sits<br>
>> >>>> theInternational<br>
>> >>>> Olympic Committee <<a href="http://www.olympic.org/" target="_blank">http://www.olympic.org/</a>>, which promotes the<br>
>> >>>> games<br>
>> >>>> and decides where they will be held. Though the I.O.C. has been<br>
>> >>>> periodically tarnished by scandal — usually involving the bribing<br>
>> >>>> and<br>
>> >>>> illegitimate wooing of delegates — those embarrassments divert us<br>
>> >>>> from<br>
>> >>>> a<br>
>> >>>> deeper problem: the organization is elitist, domineering and crassly<br>
>> >>>> commercial at its core.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> The I.O.C., which champions itself as a democratic “catalyst for<br>
>> >>>> collaboration between all parties of the Olympic family,” is<br>
>> >>>> nonetheless<br>
>> >>>> run by a privileged sliver of the global 1 percent. This has always<br>
>> >>>> been<br>
>> >>>> the case: when Baron Pierre de Coubertin revived the Olympics in the<br>
>> >>>> 1890s,<br>
>> >>>> he assembled a hodgepodge of princes, barons, counts and lords to<br>
>> >>>> coordinate the games. Eventually the I.O.C. opened its hallowed<br>
>> >>>> halls<br>
>> >>>> to<br>
>> >>>> wealthy business leaders and former Olympians. Not until 1981 were<br>
>> >>>> women<br>
>> >>>> allowed in.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Even today, royalty make up a disproportionate share of the body;<br>
>> among<br>
>> >>>> the 105 I.O.C.<br>
>> >>>> members<<br>
>> <a href="http://www.olympic.org/content/the-ioc/the-ioc-institution1/ioc-members-list/" target="_blank">http://www.olympic.org/content/the-ioc/the-ioc-institution1/ioc-members-list/</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> >>>> are<br>
>> >>>> the likes of Princess Nora of Liechtenstein, Crown Prince Frederik<br>
>> >>>> of<br>
>> >>>> Denmark and Prince Nawaf Faisal Fahd Abdulaziz of Saudi Arabia. The<br>
>> >>>> United<br>
>> >>>> States has only three representatives, two of them former Olympic<br>
>> >>>> athletes.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Then there are the excessive demands that the I.O.C. makes on host<br>
>> >>>> cities. For instance, the host cities have had to change their laws<br>
>> >>>> to<br>
>> >>>> comply with the Olympic<br>
>> >>>> Charter<<a href="http://www.olympic.org/Documents/olympic_charter_en.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.olympic.org/Documents/olympic_charter_en.pdf</a>>,<br>
>> >>>> which states that “no kind of demonstration or political, religious<br>
>> >>>> or<br>
>> >>>> racial propaganda is permitted in any Olympic sites, venues or other<br>
>> >>>> areas.” When Vancouver, British Columbia, hosted the Winter Games in<br>
>> >>>> 2010,<br>
>> >>>> the city passed a bylaw that outlawed signs and banners that did not<br>
>> >>>> “celebrate” the Olympics. Placards that criticized the Olympics were<br>
>> >>>> forbidden, and the law even empowered Canadian authorities to remove<br>
>> >>>> such<br>
>> >>>> signs from private property.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> The I.O.C. also makes host cities police Olympics-related<br>
>> >>>> intellectual<br>
>> >>>> property rights. So Parliament adopted the London Olympic Games and<br>
>> >>>> Paralympic Games Act of<br>
>> >>>> 2006<<a href="http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/12/contents" target="_blank">http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/12/contents</a>>,<br>
>> >>>> which defines as a trademark infringement the commercial use of<br>
>> >>>> words<br>
>> >>>> like<br>
>> >>>> “games,” “2012” and “London” in proximity.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Such monomaniacal brand micromanagement points to another problem:<br>
>> >>>> the<br>
>> >>>> I.O.C. has turned the Olympics into a commercial bonanza. In London,<br>
>> >>>> more<br>
>> >>>> than 250 miles of V.I.P. traffic lanes are reserved not just for<br>
>> >>>> athletes<br>
>> >>>> and I.O.C. luminaries but also for corporate sponsors. Even the<br>
>> >>>> signature<br>
>> >>>> torch relay has been commercialized: the I.O.C. and its corporate<br>
>> >>>> partners<br>
>> >>>> snapped up 10 percent of the torchbearer slots for I.O.C.<br>
>> >>>> stakeholders<br>
>> >>>> and<br>
>> >>>> members of the commercial sponsors’ information technology and<br>
>> >>>> marketing<br>
>> >>>> staffs. Michael R. Payne, a former marketing director for the<br>
>> >>>> committee,<br>
>> >>>> has called the Olympics “the world’s longest commercial.”<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Most worrisome, perhaps, is that the I.O.C. creates perverse<br>
>> incentives<br>
>> >>>> for security officials in host cities to overspend and to militarize<br>
>> >>>> public<br>
>> >>>> space. The I.O.C. tends to look kindly on bids that assure security,<br>
>> >>>> and<br>
>> >>>> host cities too often use the games as a once-in-a-lifetime<br>
>> opportunity<br>
>> >>>> to<br>
>> >>>> stock police warehouses with the best weapons money can buy.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Visitors to London, where the games are scheduled to run from July<br>
>> >>>> 27<br>
>> >>>> to<br>
>> >>>> Aug. 12, would be forgiven for thinking they had dropped in on a<br>
>> >>>> military<br>
>> >>>> hardware convention. Helicopters, fighter jets and bomb-disposal<br>
>> >>>> units<br>
>> >>>> will<br>
>> >>>> be at the ready. About 13,500 British military personnel will be on<br>
>> >>>> patrol<br>
>> >>>> — 4,000 more than are currently serving in Afghanistan. Security<br>
>> >>>> officials<br>
>> >>>> have acquired Starstreak and Rapier surface-to-air missiles. Even<br>
>> >>>> the<br>
>> >>>> Olympic mascots look like two-legged surveillance cameras.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Let us be clear: the concern about ensuring a terror-free Olympics<br>
>> >>>> is<br>
>> >>>> tragically warranted. In 1972, members of the Palestinian militant<br>
>> >>>> group<br>
>> >>>> Black September killed 11 Israeli athletes and coaches at the<br>
>> >>>> Olympics<br>
>> >>>> in<br>
>> >>>> Munich — after which the I.O.C. president notoriously insisted that<br>
>> >>>> “the<br>
>> >>>> games must go on” — and in 1996, a bomb at the Atlanta Olympics<br>
>> >>>> killed<br>
>> >>>> a<br>
>> >>>> spectator and injured more than 100 other people. Yet there is such<br>
>> >>>> a<br>
>> >>>> thing<br>
>> >>>> as excess — and surveillance and weaponry are not a panacea.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Security measures can also be counterproductive: London residents<br>
>> >>>> who<br>
>> >>>> learned that the Ministry of Defense was attaching missile launchers<br>
>> to<br>
>> >>>> the<br>
>> >>>> roofs of their apartment buildings can’t be blamed for wondering if<br>
>> >>>> they’ve<br>
>> >>>> unwillingly become a prime target for terrorists. And, symbolically,<br>
>> at<br>
>> >>>> a<br>
>> >>>> certain point it gets hard to square the image of the militarized<br>
>> state<br>
>> >>>> with the Olympic ideals of peace and understanding.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> What can be done? The I.O.C. has acknowledged that the escalating<br>
>> scale<br>
>> >>>> of the games — “gigantism” — is a real issue. Competitions drenched<br>
>> >>>> in<br>
>> >>>> privilege, like the equestrian events, should be ditched (with<br>
>> apologies<br>
>> >>>> to<br>
>> >>>> Ann Romney’s horse Rafalca, who will be competing in dressage in<br>
>> >>>> London).<br>
>> >>>> Pseudo-historical events like Greco-Roman wrestling, concocted in<br>
>> >>>> the<br>
>> >>>> 19th<br>
>> >>>> century, could also go. Events with high start-up costs could be<br>
>> >>>> swapped<br>
>> >>>> for those requiring fewer resources. Why not bring back tug-of-war<br>
>> >>>> (a<br>
>> >>>> hotly<br>
>> >>>> contested event in the early 20th century) and add more running<br>
>> events,<br>
>> >>>> like trail running and cross-country?<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Governance is another challenge. After the bribery scandal<br>
>> >>>> surrounding<br>
>> >>>> the selection of Salt Lake City to host the 2002 Winter Olympics,<br>
>> >>>> and<br>
>> >>>> under<br>
>> >>>> pressure from Congress, the I.O.C. created an ethics commission to<br>
>> >>>> monitor<br>
>> >>>> the bid process — but it reports to the I.O.C.’s executive board,<br>
>> which<br>
>> >>>> still has the final say.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Other measures worth considering are to streamline committee<br>
>> membership<br>
>> >>>> and to provide greater representation for the international sports<br>
>> >>>> federations that administer athletic competitions — though either<br>
>> >>>> approach<br>
>> >>>> would continue to pose accountability problems.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> In these bleak economic times, the world could use a little athletic<br>
>> >>>> transcendence. Sadly, the arrogance and aloofness of the<br>
>> >>>> organization<br>
>> >>>> behind the spectacle are all too ordinary.<br>
>> >>>> **<br>
>> >>>> Jules<br>
>> >>>> Boykoff<<br>
>> <a href="http://www.pacificu.edu/as/politics/faculty/jules-boykoff.cfm/" target="_blank">http://www.pacificu.edu/as/politics/faculty/jules-boykoff.cfm/</a>>,<br>
>> >>>> an associate professor of political science at Pacific University,<br>
>> >>>> is<br>
>> >>>> writing a book on dissent and the Olympics. Alan<br>
>> >>>> Tomlinson<<a href="http://alantomlinson.typepad.com/" target="_blank">http://alantomlinson.typepad.com/</a>> is<br>
>> >>>> a professor of leisure studies at the University of Brighton.<br>
>> >>>> ****<br>
>> >>>> ******<br>
>> >>>> **<br>
>> >>>> MORE IN OPINION (2 OF 19 ARTICLES) Op-Ed Columnist: Doughnuts<br>
>> >>>> Defeating<br>
>> >>>> Poverty<<br>
>> <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/05/opinion/doughnuts-defeating-poverty.html?src=un&feedurl=http%3A%2F%2Fjson8.nytimes.com%2Fpages%2Fopinion%2Findex.jsonp" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/05/opinion/doughnuts-defeating-poverty.html?src=un&feedurl=http%3A%2F%2Fjson8.nytimes.com%2Fpages%2Fopinion%2Findex.jsonp</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Read More<br>
>> >>>> »<<br>
>> <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/05/opinion/doughnuts-defeating-poverty.html?src=un&feedurl=http%3A%2F%2Fjson8.nytimes.com%2Fpages%2Fopinion%2Findex.jsonp" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/05/opinion/doughnuts-defeating-poverty.html?src=un&feedurl=http%3A%2F%2Fjson8.nytimes.com%2Fpages%2Fopinion%2Findex.jsonp</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> >>>> Close<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> --<br>
>> >>> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA<br>
>> >>> Member, Board of Directors, CECI,<br>
>> >>> <a href="http://www.ceci.ca" target="_blank">http://www.ceci.ca</a><<br>
>> <a href="http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/" target="_blank">http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/</a>><br>
>> >>> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business,<br>
>> >>> <a href="http://www.schulich.yorku.ca" target="_blank">www.schulich.yorku.ca</a><br>
>> >>> Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation,<br>
>> >>> <a href="http://www.gkpfoundation.org" target="_blank">www.gkpfoundation.org</a><br>
>> >>> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, <a href="http://www.chasquinet.org" target="_blank">www.chasquinet.org</a><br>
>> >>> Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, <a href="http://npoc.org/" target="_blank">http://npoc.org/</a><br>
>> >>> O:<a href="tel:%2B1%20514%20484%207824" value="+15144847824">+1 514 484 7824</a>; M:<a href="tel:%2B1%20514%20704%207824" value="+15147047824">+1 514 704 7824</a><br>
>> >>> Skype: alain.berranger<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
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