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Speaking as someone who does not regularly comment here (but does
regularly follow discussions), I just wanted to say that I
personally find discussions here neither 'spammy' nor
'unprofessional'.<br>
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I think it is perfectly acceptable for a group whose mandate is to
represent non-commercial interests to discuss what is arguably at
least an incident of misuse (or at the least over-reaching use) of
trademark. The term 'bully' is not, in my opinion, used lightly or
frivolously in this context. <br>
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Putting aside the actual legal merits of USOC's actual claim here
for a second and focusing on IP bullying more broadly as a
commercial interest, we're discussing scenarios where one party
makes claims that are dubious on legal grounds, but has succeeded
purely on the basis that the threatened party lacks the resources
(or commercial motivation) to fight in court. While the knitting
scenario in particular did not involve the use of a domain name,
this is certainly a salient issue to ICANN and central to the UDRP,
etc., so I'm not sure how such discussions are out of place here.<br>
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FYI -- I do find this list generates a lot of traffic. For what it's
worth, I personally use a custom filter that diverts all into one
folder and check in periodically so it does not interfere with my
review of day to day emails. I've done this for many lists I'm on,
and it only takes a minute or two to set up.<br>
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Best,<br>
Tamir<br>
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On 7/3/2012 5:53 PM, Michael Carson wrote:
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<p>Thanks Milton for your email. One of the problems that I
have with comments on this listserv is that a large number of
them tend to be directed at corporations/companies (in this
case, brand bullies as you call them). Yet individuals within
the ICANN community (especially those will long ties and
history) "appear" to collectively bully - in the name of
protecting the Internet space - those
(corporations/companies/brands) they disagree with. There's
only a small group of individuals who regularly comment on the
NCSG listserv. Do their opinions represent the majority?</p>
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<p>As you know the NSCG is comprised of individuals and in the
YMCA's case an NFP who happens to have brand. While the NCUC
and NPOC serve different interests, the "common" interests
should be for all voices to be heard, included and valued with
respect to Internet matters.</p>
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<p>DeeDee, constructive criticism and robust discussions are
important and necessary. Immature comments are not
professional; that's what I meant by unprofessional.</p>
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<p>Enough said by me, I'm on vacation and seek to enjoy the rest
of it. Have a wonderful holiday. Regards,<br>
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<b>From: </b>"Milton L Mueller" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mueller@SYR.EDU"><mueller@SYR.EDU></a><br>
<b>To: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, July 3, 2012 4:18:59 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: knitters needle<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New';
COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I agree with DeeDee. The
issue of brand-bullying by the Olympic committee is highly
relevant to domain name policy. While some of the banter
about knitting needles on airplanes might have been
orthogonal to the main point, this will happen on any list
that is actually alive. </span></p>
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10pt"> NCSG-Discuss
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>DeeDee Halleck<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The discussion of the knitters is not
wasteful, though it is amusing! It is information that
indicates the monopolistic commercial aggression of the
Olympic Committee which should never get special
privileges from ICANN or anybody! </p>
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