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    dear all:<br>
    some government control... for political issue... some for industry
    issue.... some for security/defence issue.. but in Indonesia somehow
    on ethical and pornography issues :-)<br>
    <br>
    sometimes we forget because of the scale and power of Internet that
    actually internet supposed to be the tools... to deliver th
    contents... or is it the ends.. ?<br>
    regards, rudi rusdiah - apwkomitel - indonesia<br>
    On 05/24/2012 09:03 AM, Kadian Davis wrote:
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAN5hT9cOKNz7VpTuQnkeQ-h09R3sm-9BTq+tUaLbePQ1Ri6-Fw@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">Increasingly Governments are moving towards control of
      Internet Freedom. Freedom of expression, although debatable, is a
      fundamental right and is often the center piece of a democracy.
      However, Governments are sometimes preoccupied with finding ways
      to protect national security and human rights pertaining to
      Internet usage. I believe that the mechanisms for enforcement of
      copyright laws  or illegal content laws through DNS filtering is
      disproportionate and  is too restrictive. In total, DNS filtering
      undermines security on the Internet and may block legitimate
      content from the Internet. Therefore, this negatively impacts
      freedom of expression. <br>
      <br>
      It is important to note that the blocking of domain names does not
      actually remove illegal content off the Internet.  As a result,
      there is need for various human right agencies within the
      government, private sector, academia and civil society to
      negotiate the terms and conditions for Internet Regulation. 
      However, I believe that these agencies should have a basic
      understanding of the Internet before negotiating Internet
      regulation. Moreover, Governments need to realize that harsh
      regulations of the Internet may impede innovation through various
      ICT tools.<br>
      <br>
      Recently we have seen a few examples pertaining to Internet
      Freedom see below:<br>
      <br>
        "Iran's telecommunications ministry has barred local banks,
      insurance<br>
         firms and telephone operators from using foreign-sourced emails
      to<br>
         communicate with clients, a specialist weekly said on Saturday.
       "The<br>
         telecommunications minister has ordered the use of domain names
      ending<br>
         with .ir" belonging to Iran, Asr Ertebatat reported." See <a
        moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://j.mp/KDVUWK" target="_blank">http://j.mp/KDVUWK</a>
      <br>
      <br>
      In addition, we see that India is pushing for the creation of a
      forum called ‘Committee for Internet Related Policies' (CIRP) to
      develop internet policies, oversee all internet standards bodies
      and policy organizations, negotiate internet-related treaties and
      sit in judgment when internet-related disputes come up. The catch
      is that India's formal proposal is for CIRP to be funded by the
      U.N., run by staff from the U.N.'s Conference on Trade and
      Development arm and report directly to the U.N. General Assembly,
      which means it will be entirely controlled by the U.N.'s member
      states. See <a moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article3423018.ece"
        target="_blank">http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article3423018.ece</a><br>
      <br>
      We can effect change let us bring these issues to the fore at the
      various (ICANN, IGF, WSIS, IETF etc) Internet Governance meetings.<br>
      <br>
      Regards,<br>
      <br>
      Kadian Davis.<br>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:10 PM, rusdiah
        <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:rusdiah@rad.net.id" target="_blank">rusdiah@rad.net.id</a>></span>
        wrote:<br>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
          .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> it is not easy talk
            about freedom, safety, neutrality, cybercrime, IP pirate,
            CISPA...with different interest... personal interest,
            national interest... business interest of the stakeholders
            ...<br>
            <br>
            anything that are not following somebody interest will be
            bad and sometimes considered as a crime ... cybercrime... <br>
            <br>
            "either you with me or against me....." <br>
            <br>
            this is the challenge for the future global dialog, not as
            easy during the period of cerf when he started the Internet
            everybody has one goal... ... regards, rudi rusdiah -
            apwkomitel (association of internet community - indonesia)
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                <br>
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                <br>
                <br>
                <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/228561-father-of-the-internet-warns-web-freedom-is-under-attack"
                    target="_blank">http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/228561-father-of-the-internet-warns-web-freedom-is-under-attack</a></div>
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style="padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;padding-top:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;margin-bottom:0px;font-weight:bold;padding-bottom:0px;border-top-width:0px;margin-right:0px;font-size:20px;border-right-width:0px;margin-left:0px;font-family:Georgia;margin-top:10px;border-left-width:0px">‘Father

                                        of the Internet’ warns Web
                                        freedom is under attack</h1>
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                                        Andrew Feinberg </span>- <span
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                                        11:07 AM ET</span></div>
                                    <div
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                                      <p
style="border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-family:Georgia;font-size:14px;margin-top:15px;margin-right:1px;margin-bottom:15px;margin-left:1px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;line-height:1.5">“Father
                                        of the Internet” Vint Cerf on
                                        Monday warned that Internet
                                        freedom is under threat from
                                        governments around the world,
                                        including the United States.</p>
                                      <p
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                                        a computer scientist who was
                                        instrumental in the Internet’s
                                        creation and is now employed by
                                        Google as its "Internet
                                        evangelist," said officials in
                                        the United States, United
                                        Kingdom and Europe are using
                                        intellectual property and
                                        cybersecurity issues "as an
                                        excuse for constraining what we
                                        can and can't do on the 'net.”</p>
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                                      "Political structures … are often
                                      scared by the possibility that the
                                      general public might figure out
                                      that they don't want them in
                                      power," he said.
                                      <div
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                                      <p
style="border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-family:Georgia;font-size:14px;margin-top:15px;margin-right:1px;margin-bottom:15px;margin-left:1px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;line-height:1.5">He
                                        sounded the alarm about the
                                        International Telecommunications
                                        Union (ITU), arguing the group
                                        is poised to assume the role of
                                        global Internet cop.</p>
                                      <p
style="border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-family:Georgia;font-size:14px;margin-top:15px;margin-right:1px;margin-bottom:15px;margin-left:1px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;line-height:1.5">“There
                                        is strong indication that the
                                        Internet will enter the picture
                                        [for the ITU]," Cerf said at
                                        the Freedom to Connect
                                        conference.</p>
                                      <p
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                                        said the ITU is likely to try
                                        and lock in mandatory
                                        intellectual property
                                        protections as a backdoor for
                                        easy Web surveillance.</p>
                                      <p
style="border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-family:Georgia;font-size:14px;margin-top:15px;margin-right:1px;margin-bottom:15px;margin-left:1px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;line-height:1.5">Even
                                        good-faith efforts at Internet
                                        policymaking should be viewed
                                        with skepticism, Cerf said,
                                        because balancing freedom and
                                        security "isn't something that
                                        government alone is going to
                                        figure out."</p>
                                      <p
style="border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-family:Georgia;font-size:14px;margin-top:15px;margin-right:1px;margin-bottom:15px;margin-left:1px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;line-height:1.5">He
                                        criticized the Cybersecurity and
                                        Intelligence Protection Act
                                        (CISPA), legislation passed by
                                        the House to encourage companies
                                        to share information about cyber
                                        threats with the government,
                                        because it lacks "adequate
                                        constraints" on how the
                                        information is used.</p>
                                      <p
style="border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-family:Georgia;font-size:14px;margin-top:15px;margin-right:1px;margin-bottom:15px;margin-left:1px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;line-height:1.5">But
                                        Cerf said he has the "optimistic
                                        belief" that attempts by hostile
                                        governments to restrict access
                                        will be circumvented by
                                        resourceful engineers around the
                                        world. </p>
                                      <p
style="border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-family:Georgia;font-size:14px;margin-top:15px;margin-right:1px;margin-bottom:15px;margin-left:1px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;line-height:1.5">"If
                                        someone stops me from
                                        communicating, I'll find a way
                                        around it," he said.</p>
                                      <p
style="border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-family:Georgia;font-size:14px;margin-top:15px;margin-right:1px;margin-bottom:15px;margin-left:1px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;line-height:1.5">Cerf
                                        also urged vigilante groups such
                                        as Anonymous to stop using
                                        cyberattacks as a means of
                                        activism, saying the hackings
                                        are counterproductive.</p>
                                      <p
style="border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-family:Georgia;font-size:14px;margin-top:15px;margin-right:1px;margin-bottom:15px;margin-left:1px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;line-height:1.5">"I
                                        don't think lawlessness is our
                                        friend," he said.</p>
                                      <p
style="border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-family:Georgia;font-size:14px;margin-top:15px;margin-right:1px;margin-bottom:15px;margin-left:1px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;line-height:1.5">Ultimately,
                                        there is a legitimate role for
                                        law enforcement on the Web, he
                                        said, adding that "it would be
                                        bad for us as a community to say
                                        … that all the good things
                                        outweigh the bad."</p>
                                      <p
style="border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-family:Georgia;font-size:14px;margin-top:15px;margin-right:1px;margin-bottom:15px;margin-left:1px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;line-height:1.5">"That's
                                        not a credible position to
                                        take," he said.</p>
                                      <p
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                                        said activists and regulators
                                        alike harm themselves by using
                                        terms like "cybercrime" because
                                        they suggest that "every bad
                                        thing that happens on the
                                        Internet is a crime."</p>
                                      <p
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                                        are just bugs," Cerf said,
                                        while suggesting a better goal
                                        for policymakers should be
                                        "cybersafety."</p>
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          style="color:rgb(0,0,153)">Kadian Davis</span><br
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        "Mark the blameless man, and observe the upright; For the future
        of that man is peace" Psalm 37:37.</span><br
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