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My perspective as the founder of the Church of Reality is that the
Internet is the next stage of human evolution. We look at ourselves
as separate beings but the reality is that humans are far more
interconnected than a hive of bees. The Internet is our collective
minds. We are externalizing our collective intelligence. It allows
us to collectively comprehend the universe. And since we are the
universe - we are the universe contemplating it's own existence. And
it is the Internet that creates the physical structure to allow
humanity to this as one and we can contemplate what no single person
could ever do.<br>
<br>
My 2 cents ....<br>
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On 5/23/2012 11:43 PM, rusdiah wrote:
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dear all:<br>
some government control... for political issue... some for
industry issue.... some for security/defence issue.. but in
Indonesia somehow on ethical and pornography issues :-)<br>
<br>
sometimes we forget because of the scale and power of Internet
that actually internet supposed to be the tools... to deliver th
contents... or is it the ends.. ?<br>
regards, rudi rusdiah - apwkomitel - indonesia<br>
On 05/24/2012 09:03 AM, Kadian Davis wrote:
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cite="mid:CAN5hT9cOKNz7VpTuQnkeQ-h09R3sm-9BTq+tUaLbePQ1Ri6-Fw@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Increasingly Governments are moving towards control
of Internet Freedom. Freedom of expression, although debatable,
is a fundamental right and is often the center piece of a
democracy. However, Governments are sometimes preoccupied with
finding ways to protect national security and human rights
pertaining to Internet usage. I believe that the mechanisms for
enforcement of copyright laws or illegal content laws through
DNS filtering is disproportionate and is too restrictive. In
total, DNS filtering undermines security on the Internet and may
block legitimate content from the Internet. Therefore, this
negatively impacts freedom of expression. <br>
<br>
It is important to note that the blocking of domain names does
not actually remove illegal content off the Internet. As a
result, there is need for various human right agencies within
the government, private sector, academia and civil society to
negotiate the terms and conditions for Internet Regulation.
However, I believe that these agencies should have a basic
understanding of the Internet before negotiating Internet
regulation. Moreover, Governments need to realize that harsh
regulations of the Internet may impede innovation through
various ICT tools.<br>
<br>
Recently we have seen a few examples pertaining to Internet
Freedom see below:<br>
<br>
"Iran's telecommunications ministry has barred local banks,
insurance<br>
firms and telephone operators from using foreign-sourced
emails to<br>
communicate with clients, a specialist weekly said on
Saturday. "The<br>
telecommunications minister has ordered the use of domain
names ending<br>
with .ir" belonging to Iran, Asr Ertebatat reported." See <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://j.mp/KDVUWK"
target="_blank">http://j.mp/KDVUWK</a> <br>
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In addition, we see that India is pushing for the creation of a
forum called ‘Committee for Internet Related Policies' (CIRP) to
develop internet policies, oversee all internet standards bodies
and policy organizations, negotiate internet-related treaties
and sit in judgment when internet-related disputes come up. The
catch is that India's formal proposal is for CIRP to be funded
by the U.N., run by staff from the U.N.'s Conference on Trade
and Development arm and report directly to the U.N. General
Assembly, which means it will be entirely controlled by the
U.N.'s member states. See <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article3423018.ece"
target="_blank">http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article3423018.ece</a><br>
<br>
We can effect change let us bring these issues to the fore at
the various (ICANN, IGF, WSIS, IETF etc) Internet Governance
meetings.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Kadian Davis.<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:10 PM,
rusdiah <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rusdiah@rad.net.id" target="_blank">rusdiah@rad.net.id</a>></span>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> it is not easy talk
about freedom, safety, neutrality, cybercrime, IP pirate,
CISPA...with different interest... personal interest,
national interest... business interest of the stakeholders
...<br>
<br>
anything that are not following somebody interest will be
bad and sometimes considered as a crime ... cybercrime...
<br>
<br>
"either you with me or against me....." <br>
<br>
this is the challenge for the future global dialog, not as
easy during the period of cerf when he started the
Internet everybody has one goal... ... regards, rudi
rusdiah - apwkomitel (association of internet community -
indonesia)
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of the Internet” Vint Cerf on
Monday warned that Internet
freedom is under threat from
governments around the world,
including the United States.</p>
<p
style="border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-family:Georgia;font-size:14px;margin-top:15px;margin-right:1px;margin-bottom:15px;margin-left:1px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;line-height:1.5">Cerf,
a computer scientist who was
instrumental in the Internet’s
creation and is now employed
by Google as its "Internet
evangelist," said officials in
the United States, United
Kingdom and Europe are using
intellectual property and
cybersecurity issues "as an
excuse for constraining what
we can and can't do on the
'net.”</p>
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"Political structures … are
often scared by the possibility
that the general public might
figure out that they don't want
them in power," he said.
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<p
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sounded the alarm about the
International
Telecommunications Union
(ITU), arguing the group is
poised to assume the role of
global Internet cop.</p>
<p
style="border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-family:Georgia;font-size:14px;margin-top:15px;margin-right:1px;margin-bottom:15px;margin-left:1px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;line-height:1.5">“There
is strong indication that the
Internet will enter the
picture [for the ITU]," Cerf
said at the Freedom to Connect
conference.</p>
<p
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said the ITU is likely to try
and lock in mandatory
intellectual property
protections as a backdoor for
easy Web surveillance.</p>
<p
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good-faith efforts at Internet
policymaking should be viewed
with skepticism, Cerf said,
because balancing freedom and
security "isn't something that
government alone is going to
figure out."</p>
<p
style="border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-family:Georgia;font-size:14px;margin-top:15px;margin-right:1px;margin-bottom:15px;margin-left:1px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;line-height:1.5">He
criticized the Cybersecurity
and Intelligence Protection
Act (CISPA), legislation
passed by the House to
encourage companies to share
information about cyber
threats with the government,
because it lacks "adequate
constraints" on how the
information is used.</p>
<p
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Cerf said he has the
"optimistic belief" that
attempts by hostile
governments to restrict access
will be circumvented by
resourceful engineers around
the world. </p>
<p
style="border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-family:Georgia;font-size:14px;margin-top:15px;margin-right:1px;margin-bottom:15px;margin-left:1px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;line-height:1.5">"If
someone stops me from
communicating, I'll find a way
around it," he said.</p>
<p
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also urged vigilante groups
such as Anonymous to stop
using cyberattacks as a means
of activism, saying the
hackings are
counterproductive.</p>
<p
style="border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-family:Georgia;font-size:14px;margin-top:15px;margin-right:1px;margin-bottom:15px;margin-left:1px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;line-height:1.5">"I
don't think lawlessness is our
friend," he said.</p>
<p
style="border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-family:Georgia;font-size:14px;margin-top:15px;margin-right:1px;margin-bottom:15px;margin-left:1px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;line-height:1.5">Ultimately,
there is a legitimate role for
law enforcement on the Web, he
said, adding that "it would be
bad for us as a community to
say … that all the good things
outweigh the bad."</p>
<p
style="border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-family:Georgia;font-size:14px;margin-top:15px;margin-right:1px;margin-bottom:15px;margin-left:1px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;line-height:1.5">"That's
not a credible position to
take," he said.</p>
<p
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said activists and regulators
alike harm themselves by using
terms like "cybercrime"
because they suggest that
"every bad thing that happens
on the Internet is a crime."</p>
<p
style="border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-family:Georgia;font-size:14px;margin-top:15px;margin-right:1px;margin-bottom:15px;margin-left:1px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;line-height:1.5">"Some
are just bugs," Cerf said,
while suggesting a better goal
for policymakers should be
"cybersafety."</p>
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