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Thx for sharing this.<br>
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haven't had the time to read this yet, but i'm hopeful it could be a
good test, and it sounds definitely less expansive than what I
thought ILP meant at first.<br>
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Nicolas<br>
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On 08/04/2012 10:22 AM, Alain Berranger wrote:
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cite="mid:CANgs+Stev+kDCPQHncg_zxZ-QtGKvW6B_D08ZiZ+QUw_Gzrj8A@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Dear Colleagues,
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<div>The notion of "International Legal Personality (ILP)" as a
"litmus test" was introduced in the NCSG Policy Committee's
motion after early discussion in San José and later
consideration. The Portugal representative at the GAC meeting in
San José referred to similar notions in San José without however
specifically mentioning "ILP" that I recall - I have not
searched for the transcript. </div>
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<div>It should prove to be a tough test to pass for most
international governmental <u><b>and/or non-governmental</b></u>
organizations, to the exception of UN system organizations. The
"UN+10" referred to by Klaus and Avri, is purely notional but a
symbolic way of saying it is not going to be a lot (maybe 10?)
of non-governmental organizations that can pass the test. It is
hard for me to buy the "open floodgate" argument if the "ILP"
fliter is applied.</div>
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<div>Please see <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ejil.oxfordjournals.org/content/18/4/775.full">http://ejil.oxfordjournals.org/content/18/4/775.full</a>
for a contextual enquiry into the concept of "International
Legal Personality" in the form of a 2004 publication by J. E.
Nijman from the U. of Amsterdam and review by Robert Kolb of the
Université de Neuchâtel. </div>
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<div>Note the interesting link between "ILP" and "Human Rights"
- Robert Klob argues: <i>"The theory of ILP thus comes down to
a theory of human rights"</i>.</div>
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<div>Alain <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 12:36 PM,
klaus.stoll <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:klaus.stoll@chasquinet.org">klaus.stoll@chasquinet.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Dear Friends</div>
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<div>Greetings. I think we need to limit the
possibility to an absolute minimum, (UN + 10 max),
IF ANY !, everything else will as Avri says open up
the flood gates and make the whole gTLD system
unmanageable because there will we hundreds if not
thousands of exceptions and an equal number of legal
actions for those who think they deserve them.</div>
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<div>Yours</div>
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<div>Klaus</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
title="robin@IPJUSTICE.ORG"
href="mailto:robin@IPJUSTICE.ORG"
target="_blank">Robin Gross</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 07, 2012 5:51
PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
title="NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU"
href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU"
target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: Update on IOC/RC issue:
motion proposed by NCSG for PDP</div>
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<div
style="font-size:small;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:'Calibri';display:inline;font-weight:normal">Thanks.
I thought we were going to add "IF ANY" to the
clause asking about what other orgs deserve such
rights? I worry that we are inviting a flood
gate of requests for privileges by assuming
there will be others (rather than ask the
question IF there should be others first).
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<div>Robin<br>
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<div>On Apr 6, 2012, at 10:31 AM, <a
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href="mailto:Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu"
target="_blank">Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu</a>
wrote:</div>
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<div>Hello everyone,</div>
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<div>The NCSG Policy Committee agreed
that, in view of the passage of the
motion which adopted the IOC-RC
Drafting Team's recommendations for
first-round protections for the IOC
and RC, the GNSO should consider
additional protections - including
any that might apply to other
international governmental
organizations (IGOs) who have
requested similar protections -
through a full Policy Development
Process (PDP) rather than through an
ad-hoc drafting team.</div>
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<div>Accordingly, we proposed a motion
that will be discussed at the
upcoming GNSO Council meeting next
week on Thursday 12 April.
Coincidentally, a similar (but not
identical) motion was also proposed
by Thomas Rickert, the Nominating
Committee appointee to the
Contracted Parties' House. Both
motions can be viewed at <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+12+April+2012"
target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+12+April+2012</a>.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Between now and the Council
meeting, we'll be discussing with
Thomas ways to combine both motions
so that the Council need only vote
on one unified motion. Early
indications are that the concept is
acceptable to some of the other
Council members, so I'm hopeful that
if we can successfully fuse both
motions, there is a fair chance of
its passage.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Cheers</div>
<div>Mary</div>
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<div><strong><font color="#800080">Mary
W S Wong</font></strong></div>
<div><em>Professor of Law</em></div>
<div><em>Chair, Graduate IP Programs</em></div>
<div><em>Director, Franklin Pierce
Center for IP</em></div>
<address>UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE
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