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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'>Since I have seen so much support in the list, I have just sent a statement on behalf of NCUC supporting the comments on the RAA submitted by Milton and Wendy. I would like to thank them both for drafting these.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'>KK<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bodoni MT Condensed","serif";color:#1F497D'>Dr. Konstantinos Komaitis,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bodoni MT Condensed","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bodoni MT Condensed","serif";color:#1F497D'>Senior Lecturer,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bodoni MT Condensed","serif";color:#1F497D'>Director of Postgraduate Instructional Courses<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bodoni MT Condensed","serif";color:#1F497D'>Director of LLM Information Technology and Telecommunications Law<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bodoni MT Condensed","serif";color:#1F497D'>University of Strathclyde,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bodoni MT Condensed","serif";color:#1F497D'>The Law School,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bodoni MT Condensed","serif";color:#1F497D'>Graham Hills building, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bodoni MT Condensed","serif";color:#1F497D'>50 George Street, Glasgow G1 1BA <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bodoni MT Condensed","serif";color:#1F497D'>UK<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bodoni MT Condensed","serif";color:#1F497D'>tel: +44 (0)141 548 4306<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bodoni MT Condensed","serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.routledgemedia.com/books/The-Current-State-of-Domain-Name-Regulation-isbn9780415477765">http://www.routledgemedia.com/books/The-Current-State-of-Domain-Name-Regulation-isbn9780415477765</a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bodoni MT Condensed","serif";color:#1F497D'>Selected publications: <a href="http://hq.ssrn.com/submissions/MyPapers.cfm?partid=501038">http://hq.ssrn.com/submissions/MyPapers.cfm?partid=501038</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bodoni MT Condensed","serif";color:#1F497D'>Website: <a href="http://www.komaitis.org">www.komaitis.org</a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> NCSG-Discuss [mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dan Krimm<br><b>Sent:</b> Σάββατο, 14 Ιανουαρίου 2012 8:50 μμ<br><b>To:</b> NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NCSG-Discuss] Comments on the Preliminary GNSO Issue Report on the RAA Amendments<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Thanks Robin,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>So then, I'm anticipating the possibility of NCSG-PC following on to this? Maybe try that first, and only if rough consensus cannot be reached at the SG level NCUC might take it up at the constituency level (does that have any weight by itself within GNSO?)?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Dan<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>--<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Any opinions expressed in this message are those of the author alone and do not necessarily reflect any position of the author's employer.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>At 12:35 PM -0800 1/14/12, Robin Gross wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>The NCSG Charter is pretty clear about how the NCSG issues policy statements. Basically, statements are approved by a rough consensus of members of the NCSG Policy Committee. Rough consensus does not allow any one member to veto a decision of the group, however.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>NCSG Charter available at:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Final+Approved+Current+NCSG+Charter">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Final+Approved+Current+NCSG+Charter</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b>2.1.3.</b><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i>NCSG Policy Committee (NCSG-PC):</i></b><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>The NCSG Policy Committee serves as a focal point for policy statements issued in the name of the NCSG, organizes policy initiatives on behalf of NCSG, and may provide policy research and guidance to NCSG GNSO Council Representatives. Formation of the NCSG-PC, its composition, and duties within the NCSG are set out in Section 2.5.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>[...]<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b>2.5 The Policy Committee</b><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>The NCSG Policy Committee is responsible for:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Discussion and development of substantive policies and statements issued in the name of the NCSG. This activity will require coordination with the membership and the Constituencies; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Organize policy initiatives on behalf of NCSG membership, including PDP initiatives from the membership; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Provide policy research and guidance to NCSG representatives on the GNSO Council; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Keep membership informed of GNSO Council activities; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Organize, appoint where appropriate, and track NCSG participation in GNSO and other pertinent Working Groups. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Organization and oversight of NCSG participation in any GNSO Council-related tasks, whether mandated by Bylaws, Council Procedures or Council decisions. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Document methods and procedures used for decision-making. Such documentation is subject to review by the NCSG-EC.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b>[...]</b><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b>2.5.2. NCSG-PC Decision making</b><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>By default NCSG-PC decisions are made by rough consensus of full NCSG-PC members. Rough consensus means that while all members do not need to agree and that no single member can veto a decision, all views must be heard and considered. Any minority views must be recorded along with the rough consensus position.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>[...]<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>On Jan 14, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Dan Krimm wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>While the deadline seems to have passed for individual comments(?), I<br>support this as an NCUC statement, or if we can get NCSG consensus then the<br>full SG. Looks like NCUC-ers are trending in support.<br><br>Alain once suggested something along the lines of "absence of objection<br>equals (implicit) support by NPOC" but unless there is an official<br>statement of NPOC leadership to that effect as a status-quo protocol I'd be<br>uncomfortable just talking the implicit as explicit, here. Don't want to<br>put words in peoples' mouths that may not be there and have them object<br>later on. Uncertainty is an obstacle here.<br><br>Dan<br><br><br>--<br>Any opinions expressed in this message are those of the author alone and do<br>not necessarily reflect any position of the author's employer.<br><br><br><br>At 10:42 PM +0000 1/13/12, Konstantinos Komaitis wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Given the support this statement seems to be receiving I suggest we submit<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>this as an NCUC statement. Can someone who is not in Europe submit this?<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Thanks and again thanks to Milton for a great statement.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>KK<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>On 13 Jan 2012, at 22:30, "Alex Gakuru" <<a href="mailto:gakuru@GMAIL.COM">gakuru@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>+1<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Gakuru<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>On 1/14/12, Nicolas Adam <<a href="mailto:nickolas.adam@gmail.com">nickolas.adam@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>+1<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Nicolas<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>On 1/13/2012 4:39 PM, Brenden Kuerbis wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Thanks Milton for taking the time to write this.<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>I support this statement personally. I also support the PC endorsing<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>it as an NCSG or at least NCUC Statement.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>---------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Brenden Kuerbis<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Internet Governance Project<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><a href="http://internetgovernance.org">http://internetgovernance.org</a> <<a href="http://internetgovernance.org/">http://internetgovernance.org/</a>><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Avri Doria <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">mailto:avri@acm.org</a>>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> i support this statement and support the PCs endorsing it as an<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> NCSG or at least NCUC Statement<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> avri<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> On 13 Jan 2012, at 12:52, Milton L Mueller wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Comments of Dr. Milton Mueller on the Preliminary GNSO Issue<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> Report on the Registrar Accreditation Agreement Amendments<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>As a member of the Executive Committee of the Noncommercial<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> Stakeholders Group, I am happy to see that the board has<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> recognized that these demands for changes to the RAA are important<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> policy issues. As such, they should be handled by the GNSO, not<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> through bilateral negotiations between Registrars and ICANN, and<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> not through unilateral dicta from the GAC and law-enforcement<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> agencies.<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>However, the value of this exercise is diminished by our<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> knowledge that private negotiations between registrars and ICANN<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> are already underway, dealing with basically the same issues. This<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> creates confusion and raises the danger of a lack of<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> representation in the evolution of a solution. The issues report<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> does not seem to clarify how these two processes intersect. It is<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> our view that the conclusions of a PDP would override any private<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> agreements made.<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>The way registrars handle the personal, financial and technical<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> data of their customers, and the way they interact with law<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> enforcement agencies, is a policy issue of the highest order. It<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> involves privacy and freedom of expression issues, due process<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> issues, as well as cyber-security and the effectiveness of<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> legitimate law enforcement in a globalized environment. The issue<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> is complicated by the fact that law enforcement from governments<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> anywhere in the world would be involved, and some of them are not<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> committed to due process, individual liberty or privacy. Even<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> legitimate governments can engage in illegitimate,<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> extra-territorial assertions of their authority or abuses of due<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> process. LEAs have a long history of demanding access to<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> information that makes their jobs easier, and this is a legitimate<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> concern. However, in democratic countries the demands of law<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> enforcement have always been constrained by the procedural and<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> substantive rights of individuals. ICANN must take this into account.<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>The demands of LEAs to make registrars collect, maintain and<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> validate data is reminiscent of what China and South Korea have<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> called a "real names" policy, which makes all participation in<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> Internet communication contingent upon giving government<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> authorities sensitive personal identification information and a<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> blanket authority to discontinue service should any wrongdoing be<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> suspected. This not only raises civil liberties issues, but places<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> potentially enormous cost burdens on registrars.<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>The concept of intermediary responsibility is being actively<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> debated in a number of Internet policy making forums. (E.g., see<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> the recent OECD report "The Role of Internet Intermediaries in<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> Advancing Public Policy Objectives."* A point of consensus in<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> this controversial topic is that any attempt to load up Internet<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> intermediaries (such as domain name registrars) with too many<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> ancillary responsibilities can stifle the innovation and growth we<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> have come to associate with the Internet economy. It can also<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> unfairly distribute the costs and burdens involved. Registrars who<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> are expected to react instantly to any demand that comes to them<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> from anyone claiming to be law enforcement will reduce their risk<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> and liability by acceding to what may be unjust demands and<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> sacrificing the rights of their users.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>I and many others in the broader ICANN community were troubled<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> by the way in which the Board seems to have been stampeded into<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> RAA amendments by a few GAC members. It is important to keep in<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> mind that the resolutions or "decisions" made by the GAC's<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> governmental members are not subject to ratification by their<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> national legislatures, or to review by their national courts.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> Thus, the GAC has no legitimacy as a policy making organ and no<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> authority to demand changes to the RAA. As an Advisory Committee,<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> they can and should make us aware of certain concerns, but they<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> are in no position to bypass ICANN's own policy development<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> processes. Furthermore, we continue to be troubled by the failure<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> or refusal of the law enforcement agencies making these demands to<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> liaise with noncommercial users or civil liberties groups.<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>We therefore support the initiation of a legitimate, inclusive<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> policy development process that includes all stakeholders,<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> including governments and law enforcement agencies. This kind of<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> balanced, multi-stakeholder process is not simply a matter of<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> fairness, it is eminently practical when dealing with a globalized<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> jurisdiction where no single government can claim to be a<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> legitimate representative of all the people and businesses<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> involved. Proposals that come from one stakeholder group are<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> certain to be suboptimal or harmful to other stakeholder groups.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> ICANN was created to resolve these conflicts of interest in a<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> balanced way that includes all affected groups.<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>*<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><a href="http://www.oecd.org/document/34/0,3746,en_2649_34223_48773090_1_1_1_1,00.html">http://www.oecd.org/document/34/0,3746,en_2649_34223_48773090_1_1_1_1,00.html</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Milton L. Mueller<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Internet Governance Project<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><a href="http://blog.internetgovernance.org">http://blog.internetgovernance.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>IP JUSTICE<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Robin Gross, Executive Director<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>w: <a href="http://www.ipjustice.org">http://www.ipjustice.org</a> e: <a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>