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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-NZ link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi all - for those who are interested, and may have forgotten, below are my notes from the previous informal GNSO meeting (which happened last year) on the implementation of the Board decision on the IOC and Red Cross. The next meeting is tomorrow – and thanks Nicolas and Avri for your comments. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>These meetings are intended to help the GNSO develop advice on how to implement the ICANN Board decision in relation to the IOC and Red Cross Names. The Board has asked the GNSO and GAC to work together to provide a single proposal for submission to the Board on permanent name protection (see the attached Q&A).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The meetings are open and you are welcome to attend.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Kind regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Joy <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> NCSG-Discuss [mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joy Liddicoat<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 15 December 2011 11:18 a.m.<br><b>To:</b> NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<br><b>Subject:</b> FW: [gnso-iocrc-dt] Documents / Thoughts for Initial Call on Wednesday<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi all – am sending the documents relating to this call today which was an informal meeting of GNSO Councillors and other interested persons to discuss the issue of the IOC and Red Cross domain names. The meeting was a preliminary one and agreed to:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Circulate the attached information to our respective stakeholder groups for comment<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Have a follow up call (tentatively scheduled for Jan 11<sup>th</sup>)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Provide a short update at the GNSO Council meeting tomorrow to the effect that the meeting had taken place so that GAC can be kept advised of progress and likely timeframes for response<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Your comments on the questions would of course be welcome, particularly whether this a policy issue or one of implementation of a Board decision. While there were different views on this it was agreed that further information was needed to answer that question and Jeff Neuman (Chair) agreed to follow that up.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>It was agreed that others can join the meetings (and quite a few did so). There was some discussion of whether, if the IOC and Red Cross names would otherwise succeed in an objection process, there was any harm in putting variations of these in the reserved list or including as part of a string similarity review. No decisions were made, but some points of view were exchanged. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I will circulate the links to the transcript of the meeting once this becomes available. Comments and questions would be very welcome.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Joy<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:owner-gnso-iocrc-dt@icann.org">owner-gnso-iocrc-dt@icann.org</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:owner-gnso-iocrc-dt@icann.org]">[mailto:owner-gnso-iocrc-dt@icann.org]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Neuman, Jeff<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 14 December 2011 5:04 p.m.<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-iocrc-dt@icann.org">gnso-iocrc-dt@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [gnso-iocrc-dt] Documents / Thoughts for Initial Call on Wednesday<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>In advance of the call, I am resending around the documents sent to us by the GAC on their proposal with respect to the handling of IOC and Red Cross domain names at both the top and second levels. In addition, I have attached a list of questions we can choose to discuss. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span lang=EN-US>Overall Issue</span></u><span lang=EN-US>: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:54.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Do we believe this issue is one of implementation (as the GAC has interpreted), or is this an issue of policy?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:54.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Should these marks be protected at all? Pros vs. Cons? <i>(NOTE: This item’s discussion can take up the entire call, but I do not want to dwell on this given the number of subjects. What I would like to do is spend no more than 15 minutes on this subject listing the arguments for and against. Of course we will allow anyone to submit comments via e-mail on this subject after the call for evaluation). I am not trying to suppress any discussion on this, but given that we spent almost all of the Council discussions in Dakar on this question alone and did not have much time to discuss the other questions, I want us to be able to get on to the other questions. </i><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span lang=EN-US><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span lang=EN-US>Top Level Protection<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>At the top level, the request is to protect the Olympic and Red Cross terms like the words “test” and “example” in the Applicant Guidebook (Section 2.2.1.2), extending those terms to multiple languages and receiving consideration during the String Similarity review. Right now, these terms (in not every language) is in the section entitled “Strings Ineligible for Registration” and would not invoke String Similarity Review.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span lang=EN-US>Questions:<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:54.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US> Should the reservation be permanent or just apply during the first round?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:54.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Should terms in this round and beyond receive consideration during string similarity review?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:54.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>c)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Should reservation in this round and beyond extend to additional languages? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span lang=EN-US>Second Level Protections<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>With respect to second-level names, the GAC requests that ICANN amend the new gTLD Registry Agreement to add a new schedule of second-</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>level reserved names. The new schedule should reserve those terms set forth in Schedule A attached to their proposal. They recommend the identical terms be protected in the 6 UN languages with an “encouragement” to registries to provide additional languages.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Questions</span></u><u><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:72.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:normal;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Should Olympic and/or Red Cross names be reserved at the second level in all new gTLDs?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:72.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:normal;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>If so, what type of reserved name would this be?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:108.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-108.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;line-height:normal;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>i.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>A “forbidden name” that can never be registered (not even by those organizations) – NOTE <i>The GAC in the Q&A said this is not what they want.</i><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:108.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-108.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;line-height:normal;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>ii.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Like a 2 letter country code where the Registry Operator may also propose release of these reservations based on its implementation of measures to avoid confusion with the corresponding country codes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:108.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-108.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;line-height:normal;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>iii.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Like a <u>Country or Territory Names,</u> which are initially reserved, but the reservation of specific country and territory names may be released to the extent that Registry Operator reaches agreement with the applicable government(s), provided, further, that Registry Operator may also propose release of these reservations, subject to review by ICANN’s Governmental Advisory Committee and approval by ICANN.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:72.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:normal;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>c.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><u><span lang=EN-US>Assuming it can be one where the reservation is released</span></u><span lang=EN-US>: What would be the mechanism for removing from the reserved list?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Any other questions or topics?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><br>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Jeffrey J. 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