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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Joy and all,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'>Please find below some comments and apologies for not getting back to you earlier. As you may know, I have been a strong advocate against any type of special protection in the form of reserving names in the new gTLD space. I am particularly concerned with the terms ‘Olympic’ and ‘Olympiad’ as they do not necessarily and automatically indicate association with IOC. Coming from Greece, there are numerous trademarks, service marks and brands that use solely or incorporate in their names the terms ‘Olympic’ or ‘Olympiad’; needless to say, that especially the term Olympiad is associated with Greece’s cultural heritage and it is very dangerous to assign it exclusively to a body that has commercial ties and makes so much money out of sponsorship deals. I am even pissed off that the Greek GAC member is not bringing up this very issue and object to this kind of reservation.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'>More importantly, I fear that reserving these names will open a Pandora’s Box and will re-introduce (at some point down the road) the GPML issue. I know that the attached document clearly rejects such a possibility, but this is ICANN. the GPML is something that I know for a fact that trademark community does not want to let go – if there is a precedent even at this limited level, it can be sued in the future for similar policies. We all experienced international organizations pushing for similar protection. This is just the beginning. If reservations takes place therefore, clear rules should be carved that do not allow other names to join the reserved list under similar or different justifications.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks and I am planning on joining the call today. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'>KK<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><u><span lang=EN-US>Overall Issue</span></u><span lang=EN-US>: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:90.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Do we believe this issue is one of implementation (as the GAC has interpreted), or is this an issue of policy?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'>[Konstantinos Komaitis] This is certainly a policy issue. I understand why the GAC would like to see it as an implementation one, since this would mean that the decision to reserve these names is resolved, but this is not the case. I don’t think the community has uniformly agreed that this is the case. Despite the fact that this issue may be limited to just two names, the GNSO should carefully consider this matter and what reserving those names will mean. We have already seen other international bodies calling for similar protection mechanisms and once a precedent, then it will be difficult to reverse it. So I would like to urge the GNSO and our councilors to be cautious on that front.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:90.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Should these marks be protected at all? Pros vs. Cons? <i>(NOTE: This item’s discussion can take up the entire call, but I do not want to dwell on this given the number of subjects. What I would like to do is spend no more than 15 minutes on this subject listing the arguments for and against. Of course we will allow anyone to submit comments via e-mail on this subject after the call for evaluation). I am not trying to suppress any discussion on this, but given that we spent almost all of the Council discussions in Dakar on this question alone and did not have much time to discuss the other questions, I want us to be able to get on to the other questions. </i><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'>[Konstantinos Komaitis] I have long stated that, although I understand the value of these names, I fail to see a legal or social justification for the kind of protection they seek. Currently, sufficient mechanisms exist that allow the protection of these marks both in the top level and second level. What is the great need for such a protection? And, why have we only seen the IOC and the Red Cross being promoted as of greater value than let’s say Amnesty International? I can only see cons if we proceed with this – cons that will ultimately backfire. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=Default><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'>One issue that I still fail to see how it can be used as a justification for this kind of protection is the Nairobi Treaty in the case of the IOC. Even within the document that is attached ( IOC and IRC reservations in new gtlds Q&A) it is stated: </span><span style='font-size:11.5pt'>"The Nairobi Treaty protects the Olympic Symbol—the five interlocking rings—rather than the words OLYMPIC or OLYMPIAD”. </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'>So, here we have it – this Treaty does not protect the name, but the combination of the Olympic symbol with the name. I find it very concerning that we are discussing exclusivity on words alone.</span><span style='font-size:11.5pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><u><span lang=EN-US><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><u><span lang=EN-US>Top Level Protection<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>At the top level, the request is to protect the Olympic and Red Cross terms like the words “test” and “example” in the Applicant Guidebook (Section 2.2.1.2), extending those terms to multiple languages and receiving consideration during the String Similarity review. Right now, these terms (in not every language) is in the section entitled “Strings Ineligible for Registration” and would not invoke String Similarity Review.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><u><span lang=EN-US>Questions:<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:90.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US> Should the reservation be permanent or just apply during the first round?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'>[Konstantinos Komaitis] Only in the first round. This should not become a set rule!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:90.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Should terms in this round and beyond receive consideration during string similarity review?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'>[Konstantinos Komaitis] I thought this would inevitably happen. In any case, even at this stage it should not be as straightforward as many claim – real and tangible consumer confusion should be evidenced. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:90.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>c)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Should reservation in this round and beyond extend to additional languages? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'>[Konstantinos Komaitis] if reservation is to take place, it should happen across the various languages. Otherwise, we are differentiating between ASCII and IDNs and we are indicating to the non-speaking world that ASCII is more important than IDNs.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><u><span lang=EN-US>Second Level Protections<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>With respect to second-level names, the GAC requests that ICANN amend the new gTLD Registry Agreement to add a new schedule of second-</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>level reserved names. The new schedule should reserve those terms set forth in Schedule A attached to their proposal. They recommend the identical terms be protected in the 6 UN languages with an “encouragement” to registries to provide additional languages.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><u><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Questions</span></u><u><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:108.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:normal;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Should Olympic and/or Red Cross names be reserved at the second level in all new gTLDs?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'>[Konstantinos Komaitis] NO!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:108.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:normal;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>If so, what type of reserved name would this be?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:144.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-144.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;line-height:normal;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>i.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>A “forbidden name” that can never be registered (not even by those organizations) – NOTE <i>The GAC in the Q&A said this is not what they want.</i><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:144.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-144.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;line-height:normal;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>ii.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Like a 2 letter country code where the Registry Operator may also propose release of these reservations based on its implementation of measures to avoid confusion with the corresponding country codes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:144.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-144.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;line-height:normal;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>iii.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Like a <u>Country or Territory Names,</u> which are initially reserved, but the reservation of specific country and territory names may be released to the extent that Registry Operator reaches agreement with the applicable government(s), provided, further, that Registry Operator may also propose release of these reservations, subject to review by ICANN’s Governmental Advisory Committee and approval by ICANN.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:108.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:normal;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>c.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><u><span lang=EN-US>Assuming it can be one where the reservation is released</span></u><span lang=EN-US>: What would be the mechanism for removing from the reserved list?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Any other questions or topics?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><br>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Jeffrey J. 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