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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-NZ link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Milton – thanks, very useful – some observations below.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Joy <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> NCSG-Discuss [mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Milton L Mueller<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 6 December 2011 3:47 a.m.<br><b>To:</b> NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: NCSG Policy Principles<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Joy,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks! It's very worthwhile and healthy for you to initiate thinking at this level, as a new GNSO Council representative. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Below are my reactions to your proposals. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><p class=Default style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>NCSG prioritises the non-commercial, public interest aspects of domain name policy.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=Default><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=Default><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Agreed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=Default><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=Default style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Guardianship: gTLD policy should be focused on responsibilities and service to the community.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=Default><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=Default><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As a social scientist and someone with 15 years of experience among Internet developers, I am extremely wary of appeals to "the community," especially when there is a definite article in front of it. First, you have to specify what "community" you are referring to, and if that doesn't mean absolute unanimity among everyone involved (which of course never happens) how does one get included or excluded from such a "community" voice. One must also be aware of the inherent ambiguities - and potential for manipulation and abuse - that can come from claims to speak for or to divine the "will" or "needs" of something called "the community." Lots of people who are leaders in this space think that they can call up a few friends, ask for comments on an email list and then decide for themselves what "the community" wants. Too often, the concept of a homogeneous community serves as a way to suppress or paper over dissent and the need for deliberation. Further, the concept of "responsibilities and service to the community" can be and often is used as a way to override individual rights. So in its current form I couldn't accept this principle. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=Default><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>JL: your points are extremely well made. I pondered a ‘guardianship’ type principle – in the end I derived this principle from RFC 1591 at 3.2 in relation to TLD administrators (at pages 3 and 4 – here: <a href="https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1591.txt">https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1591.txt</a> ) and it resonated as a broad policy principle for a non-commercial constituency– perhaps “trusteeship” and “the Internet community” as per RFC 1591 would be more appropriate. RFC1591</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> it is a little dated, but some aspects are still valid and resonate – what do you think?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=Default><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=Default style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Multi-stakeholder: gTLD policy should be determined by open multi-stakeholder processes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=Default><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=Default><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mostly agreed, although we might want to specify further that multistakeholder processes should not categorically privilege some stakeholder groups over others, specifically governments. </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>JL: agreed</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=Default><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=Default style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Human rights: gTLD policy should meet human rights standards, including transparency and the rule of law.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=Default><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=Default><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>…and freedom of expression, freedom of association, personal autonomy or privacy</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> JL: others are also emphasising these, suggesting perhaps to list them would be useful.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=Default><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=Default style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Equity: parties to domain registrations (including non-commercial registrants) should be on a level playing field; domain registrations should be first come first served.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=Default><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=Default><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I personally agree that this principle is desirable in most contexts, however, in some contexts it is perfectly acceptable for private operators of specialized domains to adopt registrations policies that are not FCFS; e.g., auctions, controlled naming policies, etc. The closer we get to a many-TLD, competitive world, the more space opens up for other models. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=Default><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>JL: fair point on FCFS – does the exception define the principle (in other words should this part be deleted), or does the principle hold, with an exception?</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=Default style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Competition and choice: gTLD policy should ensure competition and choice for non-commercial registrants and non-commercial internet users. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=Default><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=Default><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Agreed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=Default><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=Default style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>In case of conflict, the principle of guardianship prevails.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=Default><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=Default><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>;-) see above. Not only is the guardianship principle flawed and unacceptable, but to make it the standard for overriding all the others compounds all the problems it has. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>JL: check out RFC1591 and let me know what you think- </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>