<html><head><base href="x-msg://485/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">hello,<div><br></div><div>there is fellowship program already, the problem as mentioned by Amr is the selection, it is disguised way to fund some GAC rep and people from ccTLD to attend the meeting with the rest of few seats for regulators, academic etc but nothing for civil society per se, it will be important to push for fair selection there ( and ask to add more member in the selection committee which is currently small).</div><div><br></div><div>there were several recommendations from the OSC CSG WT (sorry for the acronym) where Debbie and me participated, regarding toolkit AN outreach effort. the toolkit is overdue and should help for administrative, secretariat stuff. Outreach effort is still at the beginning stage and we have motion at gnso council about the outreach taskforce. for those we need to push for implementing the recommendations. they are already over-over due.</div><div>I think the proposal is mostly about travel funding and the number looked familiar (found here <a href="http://www.icann.org/en/financials/so-ac-sg-requests-summary-fy12-09aug11-en.pdf">http://www.icann.org/en/financials/so-ac-sg-requests-summary-fy12-09aug11-en.pdf</a> , I couldn't unfortunately find the document with the all requests, it is quite instructing...) for me as some icann structures asked the same amount for different projects. </div><div><br></div><div>@Bill and yes it is peanuts if you compare to what other request , but addition all these peanuts and it will be somehow caviar :D</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Rafik</div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On Nov 16, 2011, at 6:50 AM, Joy Liddicoat wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-NZ" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Hi all – I support this idea in principle, particularly to support sustainable engagement or outreach in developing countries. I would rather see domain name fee registration funds devolved back to these kinds of engagement activities with NCSG input into their application for specific sector-supporting activities. In the draft proposal itself, given the rationale for the proposal in the first couple of pages, I was not expecting to see a focus on secretariat and administrative related activities. I’d prefer to see more focus in the proposed categories of support on capacity building and network development (whether through fellowships or other). Like Amr, I’d also be interested in how the 25k figure was derived.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Joy<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0cm; padding-left: 0cm; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>NCSG-Discuss [<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Robin Gross<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, 16 November 2011 3:19 a.m.<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Fwd: Initial Draft Proposal regarding standard Project Funding to Constituencies/SGs<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">There is a draft proposal from the CSG regarding providing standard project funding to the GNSO constituencies and stakeholder groups (see attached). I'd be very curious to hear thoughts of the membership as whether we should support this proposal and especially if you have any suggestions for amending the proposal.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Robin<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Begin forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Marilyn Cade <<a href="mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">marilynscade@hotmail.com</a>></span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">November 13, 2011 6:36:35 PM PST</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Steve Metalitz <<a href="mailto:met@msk.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">met@msk.com</a>>, Chris at Andalucia <<a href="mailto:chris@andalucia.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">chris@andalucia.com</a>>, Tony Holmes <<a href="mailto:tony_1aspen@btinternet.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">tony_1aspen@btinternet.com</a>>, Matt Serlin <<a href="mailto:matt.serlin@markmonitor.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">matt.serlin@markmonitor.com</a>>, Mason Cole <<a href="mailto:mcole@nameking.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mcole@nameking.com</a>>, David Maher <<a href="mailto:dmaher@pir.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">dmaher@pir.org</a>>, Konstantine Komaitis <<a href="mailto:k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk</a>>, Amber Sterling <<a href="mailto:asterling@aamc.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">asterling@aamc.org</a>></span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Cc:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">robin@ipjustice.org</a>>, "bc-secretariat @icann" <<a href="mailto:bc-secretariat@icann.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">bc-secretariat@icann.org</a>></span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Subject: Initial Draft Proposal regarding standard Project Funding to Constituencies/SGs</span></b><o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br><br><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><br>I mentioned to some of you that the BC submitted a proposal last year that was not funded, but that we thought it useful to share with you, and seek your support for a version of a standard support project that can be self administered at the Constituency level [in the case of the Ry and RR, that would be SG level]. We proposed $20,000 in 2012, and you will see that we have increased it to $25,000 in 2013. </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">We have specific activities in mind, and listed those. They may not be inclusive of what your entity would want to seek funding for. In our case, we primarily want to do recruitment, and we would be able to support our part time secretariat/travel, and our ongoing interest in developing some materials. <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">You may have other items that you would like to see in the list, and we did not mean to make it exclusive. <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">We would welcome your views, including if you do not want to join in any further discussion. Each constituency would still have to submit their own budget request and each will be approved individually, without any dependencies. What we are proposing is a jointly developed endorsement of such an approach. This certainly isn't required by the budget process, however. <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">As you all know, when the GNSO improvements plan was approved by the Board, certain unfunded mandates including maintaining a website, archiving records, and certain other activities were mandated for constituencies/SGs but without any consideration of how we developed resources. I gathered that the staff and Board may have had some irrational enthusiam that the ToolKit would magically solve all such needs. It is useful, but not encompassing. And, ICANN's timeline for completing it has been extremely slow. The GNSO website improvements themselves are still pending, which has made us reluctant to move our website itself to ICANN. However, this proposal is about different services than the ToolKit provides, as you will see. <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">I hope you find this useful to consider, and welcome any suggestions, or thoughts. <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">As noted, I have shared the draft with the CFO, but only as a concept paper. I have not indicated whether others will join in endorsing or improving it, so don't feel that you are at this point committed to supporting the concept. You are not, but we would welcome collaborating, if that makes sense to you. <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">If any of you would like to have a phone discussion, we can arrange that as well. <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">I copied Benedetta Rossi, the BC's Secretariat, who would arrange any such call. <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">Marilyn Cade <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">Chris Chaplow<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>