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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-NZ link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi all – I support this idea in principle, particularly to support sustainable engagement or outreach in developing countries. I would rather see domain name fee registration funds devolved back to these kinds of engagement activities with NCSG input into their application for specific sector-supporting activities. In the draft proposal itself, given the rationale for the proposal in the first couple of pages, I was not expecting to see a focus on secretariat and administrative related activities. I’d prefer to see more focus in the proposed categories of support on capacity building and network development (whether through fellowships or other). Like Amr, I’d also be interested in how the 25k figure was derived.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Joy<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> NCSG-Discuss [mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robin Gross<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 16 November 2011 3:19 a.m.<br><b>To:</b> NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<br><b>Subject:</b> Fwd: Initial Draft Proposal regarding standard Project Funding to Constituencies/SGs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>There is a draft proposal from the CSG regarding providing standard project funding to the GNSO constituencies and stakeholder groups (see attached). I'd be very curious to hear thoughts of the membership as whether we should support this proposal and especially if you have any suggestions for amending the proposal.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Robin<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Begin forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Marilyn Cade <<a href="mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com">marilynscade@hotmail.com</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Date: </span></b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>November 13, 2011 6:36:35 PM PST</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>To: </span></b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Steve Metalitz <<a href="mailto:met@msk.com">met@msk.com</a>>, Chris at Andalucia <<a href="mailto:chris@andalucia.com">chris@andalucia.com</a>>, Tony Holmes <<a href="mailto:tony_1aspen@btinternet.com">tony_1aspen@btinternet.com</a>>, Matt Serlin <<a href="mailto:matt.serlin@markmonitor.com">matt.serlin@markmonitor.com</a>>, Mason Cole <<a href="mailto:mcole@nameking.com">mcole@nameking.com</a>>, David Maher <<a href="mailto:dmaher@pir.org">dmaher@pir.org</a>>, Konstantine Komaitis <<a href="mailto:k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk">k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk</a>>, Amber Sterling <<a href="mailto:asterling@aamc.org">asterling@aamc.org</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Cc: </span></b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a>>, "bc-secretariat @icann" <<a href="mailto:bc-secretariat@icann.org">bc-secretariat@icann.org</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Subject: Initial Draft Proposal regarding standard Project Funding to Constituencies/SGs</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>I mentioned to some of you that the BC submitted a proposal last year that was not funded, but that we thought it useful to share with you, and seek your support for a version of a standard support project that can be self administered at the Constituency level [in the case of the Ry and RR, that would be SG level]. We proposed $20,000 in 2012, and you will see that we have increased it to $25,000 in 2013. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>We have specific activities in mind, and listed those. They may not be inclusive of what your entity would want to seek funding for. In our case, we primarily want to do recruitment, and we would be able to support our part time secretariat/travel, and our ongoing interest in developing some materials. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>You may have other items that you would like to see in the list, and we did not mean to make it exclusive. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>We would welcome your views, including if you do not want to join in any further discussion. Each constituency would still have to submit their own budget request and each will be approved individually, without any dependencies. What we are proposing is a jointly developed endorsement of such an approach. This certainly isn't required by the budget process, however. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>As you all know, when the GNSO improvements plan was approved by the Board, certain unfunded mandates including maintaining a website, archiving records, and certain other activities were mandated for constituencies/SGs but without any consideration of how we developed resources. I gathered that the staff and Board may have had some irrational enthusiam that the ToolKit would magically solve all such needs. It is useful, but not encompassing. And, ICANN's timeline for completing it has been extremely slow. The GNSO website improvements themselves are still pending, which has made us reluctant to move our website itself to ICANN. However, this proposal is about different services than the ToolKit provides, as you will see. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I hope you find this useful to consider, and welcome any suggestions, or thoughts. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>As noted, I have shared the draft with the CFO, but only as a concept paper. I have not indicated whether others will join in endorsing or improving it, so don't feel that you are at this point committed to supporting the concept. You are not, but we would welcome collaborating, if that makes sense to you. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>If any of you would like to have a phone discussion, we can arrange that as well. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I copied Benedetta Rossi, the BC's Secretariat, who would arrange any such call. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Marilyn Cade <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Chris Chaplow<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>