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catching up on a lot of discussion folks. This debate may be more
advance now than I am aware of.<br>
<br>
Alain,<br>
<br>
Don't make this about "being" or "not being" a *non-profit*. It is
about being or not being *non-commercial*. Non-profit and
non-commercial are objectivaly distinctive. one of the distinction
we chose to make was about the commercial status of the org members
themselves, which is a very objective way to discriminate. <br>
<br>
Tell me straight please, would you have wanted to draft rules that
would have enabled Chambers of Commerce to apply for and receive
NCSG membership? This is a trust-building or trust-breaking question
as far as i'm concern. And a fundamental one at that.<br>
<br>
Also, why isn't the org in question interested in joining the CSG?<br>
<br>
Nicolas<br>
<br>
On 14/11/2011 2:27 PM, Alain Berranger wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid:CANgs+St=vRf3TGN0hDOrZq+nCKMyf0gWb_dpiytDyVYy4DJ5Kw@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Thanks Kelly for putting evidence of USOC's
not-for-profit status squarely on the table. It is now hoped that
the NCSG-Executive Committee opponents to USOC's membership will
change their minds and rally to the NPOC-Executive Committee's
recommendation. Kudos to Avri for her mature and transparent
attitude!
<div>
<br>
</div>
<div>I sincerely hope future discussions about pending and new
NPOC members will be based solely on evidence, ie. facts
verifiable by an independant and uninterested third party. Let
it be clear, once again, that the NPOC Constituency will accept
only non-commercial members, thus facilitating the work of the
NCSG-Executive Committee on admission to the Stakeholders'
Group.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best, Alain</div>
<div><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Kelly
Maser <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Kelly.Maser@usoc.org">Kelly.Maser@usoc.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thank you to
Alain for speaking up to discuss why the U.S.
Olympic Committee is truly a non-profit entity.
The USOC and its predecessor organizations have been
responsible for overseeing amateur sports in this
country, not just at the elite level but also
encouraging sports, healthy lifestyles, competition
and fair play at the grassroots levels as well. The
USOC has many member organizations, some of which
are community-based organizations such as the YMCA
or Boys and Girls Clubs of America, the Girl
Scouts, etc. But the primary members are the
National Governing Bodies (“NGBs”) for the
individual sports (<i>e.g.,
</i>USA Track & Field, USA Swimming, U.S. Ski
and Snowboard Association, U.S. Figure Skating, U.S.
Tennis Association). The majority of the USOC’s
budget goes to support athletes, either through
direct grants or through funding the NGBs. The USOC
also provides support to the NGBs (and their
athletes) in terms of governance support, coaching
assistance, sports medicine, sports psychology and
the like. The USOC also operates three U.S. Olympic
Training Centers where thousands of athletes train
each year. Here are a few statistics for you: </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">For
<span style="color:black">example, from 2002-2010,
these fees were used to assist the USOC
in:
</span></span></p>
<p
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">(a)
annually hosting approximately 25,000 athletes,
coaches, officials and program staff for the
National Governing Bodies (“NGBs”) for the
individual Olympic sports at its three Olympic
training centers (located in Chula Vista,
California, Colorado Springs, Colorado and Lake
Placid, New York) and at its U.S. Olympic Education
Center in Marquette, Michigan, at a cost of $360
million over that
period;
</span></p>
<p
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">(b)
providing support to and sending elite U.S. athletes
and teams to national and international
competitions, most notably the Olympic Games, at a
cost of $80 million;</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">
</span></p>
<p
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">(c) <span
style="color:black">
working with local communities and 19 different
NGBs on behalf of the Community Olympic
Development Programs in Atlanta, Georgia; Chicago,
Illinois; Springfield, Missouri; Moorestown, New
Jersey; San Antonio, Texas; Verona, Wisconsin; and
Park City and Kearns, Utah;</span>
</span></p>
<p
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">(<span
style="color:black">d) directing over
$160 million in grants and services to athletes,
including monetary stipends, health services and
benefits, educational grants, and more;</span></span></p>
<p
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">(e)
providing additional support to 47 different
National Governing Bodies in the form of NGB
Programs and Services including sport performance,
coaching assistance, sports medicine, sports science
and organizational support, at a cost of $235
million; and</span></p>
<p
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">(f)
funding the USOC’s many other statutory functions.</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Please let me
know if there are other questions that I could help
answer.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Sincerely,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Kelly</span><b><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;color:#425DA1"></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;color:#425DA1"> </span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;color:#425DA1">Kelly Maser </span></b><b><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;color:gray">| Associate
General Counsel|</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">
</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;color:#425DA1">United
States Olympic Committee</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">
</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;color:gray">|</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;color:gray"> </span></b><b><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;color:#425DA1">Office</span></b><b><span
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style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">
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target="_blank">kelly.maser@usoc.org</a></span></b><b><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;color:gray"> |</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;color:gray"> </span></b><b><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;color:#425DA1"><a
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href="http://www.teamusa.org" target="_blank">www.teamusa.org</a></span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:owner-npoc-voice@icann.org"
target="_blank">owner-npoc-voice@icann.org</a>
[mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:owner-npoc-voice@icann.org"
target="_blank">owner-npoc-voice@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alain Berranger<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 12, 2011 3:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Avri Doria<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu"
target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu</a>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:npoc-voice@icann.org" target="_blank">npoc-voice@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [npoc-voice] Re: [NCSG-Discuss]
Notes from NCSG-EC Teleconference on 8 November 2011</span></p>
<div>
<div class="h5">
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thks Avri,</p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I have no appetite for
minority appeal that I cannot hope to win under
current membership mindset, sense of
entitlement, grand-fathering, numbers and
distribution... but NPOC colleagues may decide
differently.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I think we need in general to
follow evidence-based membership criteria and
follow the same criteria for all. So my 4
arguments remain as far as I am concerned and
can be verified by evidence (facts) not opinion,
hearsay, bias, etc...</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Different strokes for
different folks? For instance, how can we have
NCUC/NCSG individual members working for a law
firm or a telecom company? but we do. The NPOC
membership is clear: all are not-for-profit and
only play one side of the street. </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">To the risk of repeating
myself, national olympic committees are
not-for-profits working year in and year out for
athletes and not to be confused with the games
organizing committees which are for profit (or
at least not for loss) once in a blue moon when
the country is awarded the games...</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">For
instance re London 2012: one needs to distingush
between the games organizers - <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.london2012.com/"
target="_blank">http://www.london2012.<b>com</b>/</a> which
is for profit and get sponsors to support the
2012 games and the UK Olympic committee which
every year supports UK athletes and get sponsors
to support athletes- <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.olympics.org.uk/"
target="_blank">http://www.olympics.<b>org</b>.uk/</a><br>
<br>
Alain</p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at
3:42 PM, Avri Doria <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>>
wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br>
<br>
Assuming there are 14 members who agree with
your position, the charter has provision for
an appeal process that includes the
possibility of taking it to a full membership
vote if the difference of opinion cannot be
resolved.<br>
<br>
> 1. Any decision of the NCSG-EC can be
appealed by requesting a full vote of the NCSG
membership. There are several ways in which an
appeal can be initiated:<br>
><br>
> · If 15 NCSG members, consisting of
both organizational and individual members,
request such an appeal the NCSG Executive
Committee will first take the appeal under
consideration.<br>
><br>
> · If, after consideration of any
documentation provided by those making the
appeal, the NCSG‑EC does not reverse its
decision, the NCSG‑EC and those making the
appeal should attempt to negotiate a mutually
agreeable solution.<br>
><br>
> · If the NCSG‑EC and those making
the appeal cannot reach a mutually acceptable
agreement on the decision within 30 days, then
an NCSG vote will be scheduled as soon as
practicable.<br>
><br>
> · For this type of appeal to succeed
60% of all of the NCSG members must approve of
the appeal in a full membership vote as
defined in section 4.0.<br>
<br>
<br>
Some comments below.</p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
On 12 Nov 2011, at 15:16, Alain Berranger
wrote:<br>
<br>
> Dear Colleagues,<br>
><br>
> I want to state I disagree with the
decision to exclude the USOC. For 4 reasons:<br>
><br>
> 1) Its vision: to enable America's
athletes to realize their Olympic and
Paralympic dreams.</p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">That is its vision, but it
is debatable that is main purpose is to
administer commercial licensing agreement.
Or at least this seems to be the resumption
of those who voted against their membership.<br>
<br>
The charter indicates:<br>
"3. Is engaged in online activities that are
primarily noncommercial, including, e.g.,
advocacy, educational, religious, human
rights, charitable, scientific and artistic,
and"<br>
<br>
So the question is, what are its primary
activities, granting licenses or supporting
athletes. I have certainly heard arguments on
both sides of this issue, and personally think
it is a toss up. For example, it is well
known that most olympians have to find their
own funding in the US. This varies by
country, but in the US, the US Olympic
Committee does not support athletes as far as
I have been able to discover. So what do they
do beyond sanction events and licensing?</p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
<br>
> 2) its mission: To support U.S. Olympic
and Paralympic athletes in achieving
sustained competitive excellence and
preserve the Olympic ideals, and thereby
inspire all Americans.<br>
><br>
> 3) It is a not-for-profit with IRS
exemption under 501 c 3</p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">As the charter indicates,
being not-for-profit is not sufficient. For
example the Chamber of Commerce in
not-for-profit and yet obviously not a
non-commercial entity. Specifically:<br>
<br>
"4. In the case of a membership-based
organization, the organization should not only
be noncommercial itself, but should have a
primarily noncommercial focus, and the
membership should also be primarily composed
of noncommercial members. (E.g., a chamber of
commerce, though it may be a noncommercial
organization itself, and might even have some
noncommercial members, is primarily composed
of commercial organizations and has a
commercial focus and would not be eligible for
membership.)"<br>
<br>
So the question becomes, who are the
principles members? I do not know the answer
to this.<br>
<span style="color:#888888"><br>
<span>avri</span></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
><br>
> 4) fundraising is an activity of all
not-for-profits, including sponsoring, and
thus does not make a not-for-profit a
commercial organization. I think you are
confusing the USOC per se with the various
olympic games hosting organizations set up
for Lake Placid, Los Angeles games, etc...<br>
><br>
> Alain<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 6:11 PM,
Robin Gross <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org"
target="_blank">robin@ipjustice.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
> The new NCSG Executive Committee held
its first tele-conference on Tuesday and
we made great progress, particularly with
respect to establishing a process for
handling NCSG membership applications and
dealing with the NPOC applications that
had come in since the election. So below
are my notes from the EC meeting's
discussion.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Robin<br>
><br>
> NCSG-EC Teleconference - 8 Nov. 2011<br>
> Transcript & mp3 recording: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Meetings"
target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Meetings</a><br>
> Attendance: Michael Carson, Rafik
Dammak, Robin Gross, Milton Mueller, Klaus
Stoll<br>
> NCSG-EC Mtg Discussion Agenda:<br>
><br>
> - Review of NCSG membership
application procedures<br>
><br>
> - Review of pending NCSG membership
applications<br>
><br>
> - Establishment of NCSG Financial
Committee<br>
><br>
>
--------------------------------------------------<br>
><br>
> MEETING NOTES:<br>
><br>
> These 8 orgs were approved for NCSG
membership:<br>
> ALSAC / St. Jude<br>
> Australian RedCross Society<br>
> Church of God in Christ<br>
> Goodwill Industries<br>
> International Baccalaureate
Organization<br>
> The Association of NGOs, The Gambia
(TANGO)<br>
> Water Environment Research Foundation<br>
> YMCA of The Gambia<br>
><br>
> These 3 orgs were determined
ineligible for NCSG membership:<br>
> 1. Kaswesha Community Resource
Center<br>
> Reason provided for non-approval: Not
the exclusive user of at least one domain
name (a requirement for eligibility under
NCSG Charter Section 2.2.1).<br>
> They were invited to re-apply when
they have a noncommercial domain name.<br>
><br>
> 2. Civil Society Movement
Against Tuberculosis in Sierre Leone
(CISMAT-SL)<br>
> Reason provided for non-approval: Not
the exclusive user of at least one domain
name (a requirement for eligibility under
NCSG Charter Section 2.2.1).<br>
> They were invited to re-apply when
they have a noncommercial domain name.<br>
><br>
> 3. US Olympic Committee:<br>
> Reason provided for non-approval:
USOC is substantially a major sports
licensing business and NCSG is devoted to
the protection of noncommercial interests.<br>
> They were invited to join ICANN's
Intellectual Property Constituency as the
more appropriate place to protect their
interests.<br>
><br>
> These 7 orgs are undergoing further
evaluation:<br>
> Child Protection Alliance<br>
> Information Technology Association of
the Gambia<br>
> National Coalition for the Homeless<br>
> National Grange of the Order of
Patrons of Husbandry<br>
> Pilots N Paws<br>
> Tranquil Space Foundation<br>
> Young Life<br>
><br>
><br>
> ** Attached to this email is a flow
chart to explain the agreed process for
handling NCSG Membership Applications
going forward.<br>
><br>
> A few notes on the procedures for
handling NCSG Membership Applications:<br>
><br>
> Completed NCSG Membership
applications should be submitted by the
Applicant to the email address
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:join-ncsg@ipjustice.org"
target="_blank">join-ncsg@ipjustice.org</a>
for consideration by the entire NCSG
Executive Committee.<br>
><br>
> NCSG-NCUC Membership application
forms are available on the NCSG wiki (for
individuals and for organizations).<br>
><br>
> Members of the NCSG-EC have 2 weeks
to conduct the required due diligence on
the applications (more flexible if a
holiday).<br>
><br>
> Decisions to approve membership
applications require the full consensus of
the voting members of the NCSG Executive
Committee (NCSG Charter 2.4.2).<br>
><br>
> Verification of a named official
representative's authority to represent an
organizational applicant should be
independently verified by the EC (NSCG
Charter 2.2.4.1).<br>
><br>
> Aggregate voting / representation is
not permitted for organizations. Each
organization must be represented by a
different person. No single person (or
group of persons, i.e., a law firm) can
represent two or more organizations in
NCSG at the same time. This policy
discourages attempts to game the system
through aggregating membership votes.<br>
><br>
> Organizations with a nonprofit legal
structure are nonetheless ineligible for
membership in NCSG if they are
substantially a commercial or business
activity and their interests are more
appropriately represented in one of the
commercial stakeholder groups (NCSG
Charter 2.2.2).<br>
><br>
> An organization's official
representative to NCSG cannot be a GNSO
Council Representative for the
Intellectual Property Constituency (or
other officer or member of the IPC or
CSG). Outside trademark lawyers are
discouraged as the official representative
for an org to NCSG since NCSG is devoted
to protecting noncommercial interests.<br>
><br>
> ON A SEPARATE ISSUE:<br>
> The EC is in the process of
establishing a NCSG Financial Committee
(as per NCSG Charter 2.1. & 2.6.) and
is looking for volunteers from among the
NCSG membership - people with fundraising
expertise and time to devote to NCSG
fundraising activities and ICANN resource
allocations. So please let an EC member
know if you'd like to be considered for
membership on the NCSG Financial
Committee. Thank you!<br>
> --------------------<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> IP JUSTICE<br>
> Robin Gross, Executive Director<br>
> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA
94117 USA<br>
> p: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B1-415-553-6261"
target="_blank">+1-415-553-6261</a>
f: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B1-415-462-6451"
target="_blank">
+1-415-462-6451</a><br>
> w: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ipjustice.org"
target="_blank">http://www.ipjustice.org</a>
e:
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org"
target="_blank">robin@ipjustice.org</a><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA<br>
> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ceci.ca"
target="_blank">
http://www.ceci.ca</a><br>
> Executive-in-residence, Schulich
School of Business, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.schulich.yorku.ca"
target="_blank">
www.schulich.yorku.ca</a><br>
> NA representative, Chasquinet
Foundation, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.chasquinet.org"
target="_blank">
www.chasquinet.org</a><br>
> interim Vice Chair, NPOC, NCSG,
ICANN, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://npoc.org/" target="_blank">
http://npoc.org/</a><br>
> O:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B1%20514%20484%207824"
target="_blank">+1 514 484 7824</a>; M:<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B1%20514%20704%207824"
target="_blank">+1 514 704 7824</a><br>
> Skype: alain.berranger<br>
></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
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</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- <br>
Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA</p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Member, Board of Directors,
CECI, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/"
target="_blank">http://www.ceci.ca</a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Executive-in-residence,
Schulich School of Business, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.schulich.yorku.ca"
target="_blank">
www.schulich.yorku.ca</a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">NA representative,
Chasquinet Foundation, <span
style="font-family:"Times","serif";color:#0A246A">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.chasquinet.org"
target="_blank">www.chasquinet.org</a></span><br>
interim Vice Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://npoc.org/" target="_blank">http://npoc.org/</a><br>
O:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B1%20514%20484%207824"
value="+15144847824" target="_blank">+1
514 484 7824</a>; M:<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B1%20514%20704%207824"
value="+15147047824" target="_blank">+1
514 704 7824</a><br>
Skype: alain.berranger</p>
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Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
<div>Member, Board of Directors, CECI, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/"
target="_blank">http://www.ceci.ca</a><br>
<div>Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.schulich.yorku.ca"
target="_blank">www.schulich.yorku.ca</a></div>
<div>NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, <font
face="'Times New Roman', Times, serif" color="#0a246a"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.chasquinet.org"
target="_blank">www.chasquinet.org</a></font><br>
interim Vice Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://npoc.org/"
target="_blank">http://npoc.org/</a><br>
O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824<br>
Skype: alain.berranger<br>
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