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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Calibri><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:navy'>Hi there,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Calibri><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:navy'>I just wanted to clarify if you’re
objection is to <st1:PersonName w:st="on">at</st1:PersonName>tempts <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">at</st1:PersonName> assessing ‘real non-commercial’ in
general, or to specific line-drawing with respect to one applic<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">at</st1:PersonName>ion (Olympic committee). If the objective is to
ensure true represent<st1:PersonName w:st="on">at</st1:PersonName>ion of
non-commercial interests, legal (or .org) non-profit st<st1:PersonName w:st="on">at</st1:PersonName>us
is not enough, I think. It would be far too easy to game, as any commercial
interest can quite easily set up a non-profit wing. In fact, it’s fairly common
practice for industry or business groups to set up non-profits precisely for
the purpose of advancing commercial interests. I can think of many examples.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:navy'>The legal criteria for ‘non-profit’
rel<st1:PersonName w:st="on">at</st1:PersonName>e to financial structuring, not
to ‘interests advanced’. There do not appear to be any requirements
for .org registr<st1:PersonName w:st="on">at</st1:PersonName>ion. Given this, I
think it is incumbent upon NCSG to do some sort of assessment to ensure th<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">at</st1:PersonName> it remains represent<st1:PersonName w:st="on">at</st1:PersonName>ive
of non-commercial interests.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:navy'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:navy'>Tamir</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
NCSG-Discuss [mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Alain Berranger<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> November 13, 2011 12:23 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Question about NCUC
faq rel<st1:PersonName w:st="on">at</st1:PersonName>ing to membership</span></font><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Meanwhile, I think we can only be taken seriously inside and outside
ICANN and do meaningful work, if we have hundred more if not thousands of NGO/NFP
members... so arguing about this NGO or this NFP being a "real
non-commercial" seems counterproductive to me!... You will surely agree
with me th<st1:PersonName w:st="on">at</st1:PersonName> academics support
evidence-based decisions and the definition of an NGO/NFP is not rocket science
neither...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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