<html><head><base href="x-msg://9285/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Diane Schroeder <<a href="mailto:diane.schroeder@icann.org">diane.schroeder@icann.org</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><b>Re: Agenda points for the meeting of the ICANN Board with the NCSG</b><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">23 October 2011 17:44:38 GMT<br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Steve Crocker <<a href="mailto:steve@shinkuro.com">steve@shinkuro.com</a>>, Avri Doria <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Cc: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">"<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>" <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>><br></span></div><br><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><div><div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; ">Dear Avri – I'd also like to convey some of the areas in which the Board is interested in hearing from the NCSG. Within this restricted time, a full discussion will be challenging but some of these fall within the topics below but are cast a bit differently:</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><br></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span><span style="font-family: Calibri; ">·</span><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; font-family: Calibri; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri; ">CEO Search - what qualities do you think we ought to be seeking in a new CEO? what are your criteria for openness, transparency, etc. in the hiring process, bearing in mind considerations of responsibility to candidates andcommunity, privacy, Board confidence, etc.</span><span style="font-family: Calibri; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri; "><o:p><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"> </font></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span><span style="font-family: Calibri; ">·</span><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; font-family: Calibri; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri; ">Ethics Guidelines - what are your top 3 concerns and proposals to address them (within the confines of the multistakeholder, voluntary participation model)?</span><span style="font-family: Calibri; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><b><span style="font-family: Calibri; "><o:p><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"> </font></o:p></span></b></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span><span style="font-family: Calibri; ">·</span><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; font-family: Calibri; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri; ">What are the top three issues for the Non-Commercial stakeholder group for ICANN to address in policy development work?</span><span style="font-family: Calibri; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri; "><o:p><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"> </font></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span><span style="font-family: Calibri; ">·</span><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; font-family: Calibri; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri; ">What are the top three messages does the Non-Commercial stakeholder group believe ICNAN should be conveying with respect to new gTLDs?</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span style="font-family: Calibri; "><br></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span style="font-family: Calibri; "><br></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3">Regards</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in; "><span style="font-size: 14pt; "><br></span></div></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; "><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Diane Schroeder</font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri"><br></font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px; ">Director of Board Support</span></font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px; ">ICANN</span></font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px; ">4676 Admiralty Way, Ste. 330</span></font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px; ">Marina del Rey, CA 90292</span></font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px; ">+1-310-823-9358 (main)</span></font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px; ">+1-310-301-5827 (direct)</span></font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px; ">+1-310-823-8649 (fax)</span></font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px; ">+1-562-644-2524 (mobile)</span></font></font></div></div></div></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; "><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION" style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; text-align: left; color: black; border-bottom-width: medium; border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-color: initial; border-left-width: medium; border-left-style: none; border-left-color: initial; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 0in; padding-right: 0in; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-style: solid; border-right-width: medium; border-right-style: none; border-right-color: initial; padding-top: 3pt; "><span style="font-weight: bold; ">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Steve Crocker <<a href="mailto:steve@shinkuro.com">steve@shinkuro.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 05:26:28 -0700<br><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Avri Doria <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Cc:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Steve Crocker <<a href="mailto:steve@shinkuro.com">steve@shinkuro.com</a>>, Diane Schroeder <<a href="mailto:diane.schroeder@icann.org">diane.schroeder@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>" <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>>, ICANN Board ICANN Board List <<a href="mailto:icann-board@icann.org">icann-board@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Re: Agenda points for the meeting of the ICANN Board with the NCSG<br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Avri, et al,<div><br></div><div>The topics and the order are fine.</div><div><br></div><div>We have only one hour, and other meetings are scheduled before and after. I know it's difficult to have substantive discussion within such time constraints. Let me make a request and a suggestion.</div><div><br></div><div><b><u>Request</u></b><br><div><br></div><div>Please send us the opening statement, as compactly as possible, for each of the four topics. That will allow us to jump in and make sure we understand the issue and any controversial elements.</div><div><br></div><div><b><u>Suggestion</u></b></div><div><b><u><br></u></b></div><div>If you want to allocated unequal amounts of time to these topics, please suggest times for each topic. Otherwise, I'll assume 15 minutes for each topic.</div><div><br></div><div>I think the important goal is to make sure we hear your concerns and views. Reaching resolution of these is probably not within reach<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u>during this meeting</u>, and it would probably be inappropriate for us to do so even if there were time.You will find the Board is genuinely interested and will listen intently and respectfully. I know there is a lot of heat associated with some -- perhaps all -- of these topics. Let me urge terse, dispassionate presentation and discussion.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Steve</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Oct 22, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Avri Doria wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Dear Steve and Diane,<br><br>Four topics were discussed by the NCSG as agenda items for the NCSG meeting with the Board. We attempted to pare it down to 3 items, but were unable to come to consensus on which one to drop. Hence all four items are being offered as topics for this meeting.<br><br>In listing the topics, and given some spirited conversation on these items, they are presented in pseudo-random order. This order was determined by use of the RFC3797 process with the number of listed ICANN registrations at the time of running (22 Oct 2011, 11:20 GMT = 1070) as the single seed. The original published order is the one listed in the agenda of the last NCSG meeting, which can be found at: <<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Agenda111018">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Agenda111018</a>><br><br>The four items in Pseudo-random order are:<br><br>1. Constituency Relations within the NCSG<br><br>2. The need for some coherent thinking/process about ICANN relations with developing country governments and stakeholders<br><br>3. JAS and plans for the use of TLD-string auction proceeds<br><br>4. 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