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<DIV>Avri and everyone,</DIV>
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<DIV>It's great that Steve responded so quickly; I wonder if the following suggestion might help the Board and us manage the one hour better:</DIV>
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<DIV>Since the list of topics was discussed during the policy call last week, a couple of things have happened that might help us whittle down the list: first, the issue of constituency relations has separately been formally brought to the Board by NPOC leadership, in response to which several members of the NCSG EC have sent a letter (the one circulated on this listserv). Spending 10-15 minutes on this topic this week is unlikely to be helpful to the Board or elicit further information that has not already been put forward to them.</DIV>
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<DIV>Secondly, there's now a 1.5 hour session set aside during the Dakar meeting to discuss the CEO succession issue (on Monday at 3 p.m.). Would it make sense for us to just put a placeholder on the topic for the meeting with the Board, depending on what comes out on Monday, i.e. we may not need to have that discussion if the Monday session sufficiently covers our concerns?</DIV>
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<DIV>Cheers</DIV>
<DIV>Mary<BR><BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#800080>Mary W S Wong</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<TD><STRONG>From: </STRONG></TD>
<TD>Avri Doria <avri@ACM.ORG></TD></TR>
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<TD><STRONG>Date: </STRONG></TD>
<TD>10/22/2011 8:36 AM</TD></TR>
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<TD>[NCSG-Discuss] Fwd: Agenda points for the meeting of the ICANN Board with the NCSG</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium"><B>From: </B></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium">Steve Crocker <<A href="mailto:steve@shinkuro.com">steve@shinkuro.com</A>><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium"><B>Subject: </B></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium"><B>Re: Agenda points for the meeting of the ICANN Board with the NCSG</B><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium"><B>Date: </B></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium">22 October 2011 12:26:28 GMT<BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium"><B>To: </B></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium">Avri Doria <<A href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</A>><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium"><B>Cc: </B></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium">Steve Crocker <<A href="mailto:steve@shinkuro.com">steve@shinkuro.com</A>>, Diane Schroeder <<A href="mailto:diane.schroeder@icann.org">diane.schroeder@icann.org</A>>, <A href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</A>, Icann-board ICANN <<A href="mailto:icann-board@icann.org">icann-board@icann.org</A>><BR></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<DIV>The topics and the order are fine.</DIV>
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<DIV>We have only one hour, and other meetings are scheduled before and after. I know it's difficult to have substantive discussion within such time constraints. Let me make a request and a suggestion.</DIV>
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<DIV>Please send us the opening statement, as compactly as possible, for each of the four topics. That will allow us to jump in and make sure we understand the issue and any controversial elements.</DIV>
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<DIV>If you want to allocated unequal amounts of time to these topics, please suggest times for each topic. Otherwise, I'll assume 15 minutes for each topic.</DIV>
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<DIV>I think the important goal is to make sure we hear your concerns and views. Reaching resolution of these is probably not within reach <U>during this meeting</U>, and it would probably be inappropriate for us to do so even if there were time.You will find the Board is genuinely interested and will listen intently and respectfully. I know there is a lot of heat associated with some -- perhaps all -- of these topics. Let me urge terse, dispassionate presentation and discussion.</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
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<DIV>Steve</DIV>
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<DIV>On Oct 22, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Avri Doria wrote:</DIV><BR class=Apple-interchange-newline>
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<DIV>Dear Steve and Diane,<BR><BR>Four topics were discussed by the NCSG as agenda items for the NCSG meeting with the Board. We attempted to pare it down to 3 items, but were unable to come to consensus on which one to drop. Hence all four items are being offered as topics for this meeting.<BR><BR>In listing the topics, and given some spirited conversation on these items, they are presented in pseudo-random order. This order was determined by use of the RFC3797 process with the number of listed ICANN registrations at the time of running (22 Oct 2011, 11:20 GMT = 1070) as the single seed. The original published order is the one listed in the agenda of the last NCSG meeting, which can be found at: <<A href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Agenda111018">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Agenda111018</A>><BR><BR>The four items in Pseudo-random order are:<BR><BR>1. Constituency Relations within the NCSG<BR><BR>2. The need for some coherent thinking/process about ICANN relations with developing country governments and stakeholders<BR><BR>3. JAS and plans for the use of TLD-string auction proceeds<BR><BR>4. The community's role in CEO search<BR><BR><BR>Best Regards,<BR><BR>Avri <BR>Interim NCSG Chair<BR><BR><BR><BR>----<BR>Results of random process<BR><BR>Type size of pool:<BR>warning: this program uses gets(), which is unsafe.<BR>(or 'exit' to exit) 4<BR>Type number of items to be selected:<BR>(or 'exit' to exit) 4<BR>All of the pool is selected.<BR><BR>Type #1 randomness or 'end' followed by new line.<BR>Up to 16 integers or the word 'float' followed by up<BR>to 16 x.y format reals.<BR>1070<BR>1070 <BR>Type #2 randomness or 'end' followed by new line.<BR>Up to 16 integers or the word 'float' followed by up<BR>to 16 x.y format reals.<BR>end<BR>Key is:<BR>1070./<BR>index hex value of MD5 div selected<BR>1 8C1157DFB523FF7D93E4B052E6CB3408 4 -> 1 <-<BR>2 9F0AFEE8813C0B42057BD32A44AC5696 3 -> 4 <-<BR>3 B04BA33F2FBA13A9C2BE5E1D0B45AA41 2 -> 3 <-<BR>4 71C5D83FDC2D0DCF556A5E959AD395A8 1 -> 2 <-<BR><BR>Done, type any character to exit.<BR><BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></BODY></HTML>