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    Hi Victoria, all<br>
    <br>
    Just felt like pointing out what is surely one of the greatest
    resource site for *US* telecom law and politics: <a
      href="http://www.cybertelecom.org/">cybertelecom</a> (replete with
    case law and generally up to date). Surely it is widely known, but
    in case a few listers didn't know of it, it is certainely a great
    find. Definitely thorough with regard USA while also in depht from a
    global perspective. <br>
    <br>
    See here for a compendium of sort on <a
      href="http://www.cybertelecom.org/cda/firsta.htm">free speech</a>/1st
    amendment: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cybertelecom.org/cda/firsta.htm">http://www.cybertelecom.org/cda/firsta.htm</a><br>
    <br>
    <br>
    See here for same but relating to <a
      href="http://www.cybertelecom.org/dns/">DNS</a> :
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cybertelecom.org/dns/">http://www.cybertelecom.org/dns/</a><br>
    Navigation links should ease up search but i would recommand
    restricting a google search to the site for very efficient result
    ("search queries" site:cybertelecom.org).<br>
    <br>
    Nicolas<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    On 10/13/2011 11:37 AM, Victoria McEvedy wrote:
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">I’m assisting ORG
            on its comments to Nominet and it would be very useful to
            have some input from the lawyers and others on this list. In
            particular –it would be useful to have some extracts from
            recent US authorities/academic works on Free Speech/the
            First Amendment and the right to receive and impart
            information online and in a domain name context
            particularly. Any references/cites to helpful recent US case
            law or papers on these issues would be helpful. 
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Thanks and best,
             <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old
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              McEvedy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                Attorneys
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              style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                NCSG-Discuss [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU">Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU</a><br>
                <b>Sent:</b> 12 October 2011 22:58<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [NCSG-Discuss] VeriSign demands
                website takedown powers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">An
              impact statement would be timely and highly desirable.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Although
              I am sympathetic to certain law enforcement concerns, the
              vague language Verisign used in the RSEP filing is
              troubling. The anti-abuse policy it proposes seems to be a
              broader framework for denying, canceling or transferring
              domains - malware is just one of the grounds, and others
              include any "request from law enforcement or a government
              or quasi-government agency" (i.e. not just court orders).
              It seems to have consulted only with registrars
              (understandable), NCFTA and the Anti-Phishing Working
              Group (APWG), an association composed largely of industry
              and law enforcement bodies. There are no further details
              as to the principles or criteria to be used to determine
              "abusive", "non-legitimate" and similar broad/subjective
              thresholds.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">The
              only reference I saw, in my quick read of the RSEP, is the
              possibility of a "protest mechanism" for (one presumes) a
              restoration of the domain, but it's not clear what that
              will look like.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">The
              Nominet recommendations are somewhat clearer - e.g.
              limitation to "serious criminal activity" and the
              possibility of appeal - but still of concern. For example,
              and as Kathy and others point out, who would determine
              whether and what freedom of expression issues exist in a
              dispute?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I
              support us issuing a public statement and also would like
              us to form a small working team to reach out to Verisign,
              Nominet, the Registry and Registrar Stakeholder Groups to
              discuss the issue, hopefully in Dakar. I'd be willing to
              be the point person for the latter, if members feel that
              would be a good way to highlight our concerns to those
              directly implementing or at least considering these new
              practices.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><br>
              Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Mary<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><strong><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple">Mary
                  W S Wong</span></strong><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><em><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Professor
                  of Law</span></em><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><em><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Chair,
                  Graduate IP Programs</span></em><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><em><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Director,
                  Franklin Pierce Center for IP</span></em><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <address><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">UNIVERSITY
              OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW<o:p></o:p></span></address>
          <address><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Two
              White Street<o:p></o:p></span></address>
          <address><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Concord,
              NH 03301<o:p></o:p></span></address>
          <address><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">USA<o:p></o:p></span></address>
          <address><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Email:
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:mary.wong@law.unh.edu">
                mary.wong@law.unh.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></address>
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                              5:09 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              [NCSG-Discuss] VeriSign demands website
                              takedown powers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">An issue
                    here is what is the intended scope of the suspension
                    service. If you look at VeriSign's actual
                    announcement, it starts out talking about malware.
                    But we all know that LEAs can consider copyright,
                    gambling, and all sorts of other things to be
                    grounds for suspension. The idea of a "free
                    expression impact statement" is a great one, would
                    it apply to this case as well? Would it also be
                    advisable to push to constrain this process
                    explicitly to malware and such technical threats? <br>
                    <br>
                    <span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">>
                      -----Original Message-----<br>
                      > From: NCSG-Discuss
                      [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>] On Behalf
                      Of<br>
                      > Wendy Seltzer<br>
                      > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:57 PM<br>
                      > To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
                      > Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] VeriSign demands
                      website takedown powers<br>
                      > <br>
                      > Thanks Alex and Kathy,<br>
                      > <br>
                      > This development underscores the importance
                      of including freedom-of-<br>
                      > expression impact analyses in the policy
                      review.<br>
                      > <br>
                      > We at NCSG should help ICANN staff to set a
                      good framework for that<br>
                      > review in the current report on registrar
                      contacts for law enforcement,<br>
                      > (Resolution 3.5 at <<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://gnso.icann.org/resolutions/#201110">http://gnso.icann.org/resolutions/#201110</a>>)
                      that can<br>
                      > serve as an example and precedent for future
                      cases.<br>
                      > <br>
                      > --Wendy<br>
                      > ut <br>
                      > On 10/11/2011 11:29 AM, Kathy Kleiman wrote:<br>
                      > > Tx you, Alex, for the posting.<br>
                      > ><br>
                      > > Takedowns is a growing issue, and
                      Verisign's announcement builds upon<br>
                      > > meetings that international law
                      enforcement representatives held with<br>
                      > > registries and registrars last year. 
                      Verisign is asking for takedown<br>
                      > > powers. Also, working with the Serious
                      Organized Crime Agency of the<br>
                      > > UK, Nominet (.UK) has issued a draft
                      recommendation giving it takedown<br>
                      > > authority in cases of alleged serious
                      crime.<br>
                      > > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://www.nominet.org.uk/news/latest?contentId=8617">http://www.nominet.org.uk/news/latest?contentId=8617</a>
                      (public comment<br>
                      > > period technically over).<br>
                      > ><br>
                      > > The direction is clear - this is what
                      law enforcement wants. The<br>
                      > > question we can influence, I think, will
                      be process:<br>
                      > > - How can we ensure that only the most
                      serious crime is subject to<br>
                      > > this rapid takedown process?<br>
                      > > - How can we ensure free speech/freedom
                      of expression websites are<br>
                      > > exempt ("The policy should exclude
                      suspension where issues of freedom<br>
                      > > of expression are central aspects of the
                      disputed issue," Nominet)?<br>
                      > > - How can we ensure a very rapid appeal
                      for when mistakes occur?<br>
                      > > - How can we help the good faith domain
                      name registrants know where to<br>
                      > > go for help?<br>
                      > ><br>
                      > > Best,<br>
                      > > Kathy (Kleiman)<br>
                      > >> No court order necessary<br>
                      > >> By Kevin Murphy<br>
                      > >> 11th October 2011<br>
                      > >><br>
                      > >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/11/verisign_asks_for_web_takedo">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/11/verisign_asks_for_web_takedo</a><br>
                      > >> wn_powers/><br>
                      > >><br>
                      > >><br>
                      > ><br>
                      > ><br>
                      > <br>
                      > <br>
                      > --<br>
                      > Wendy Seltzer -- <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wendy@seltzer.org">wendy@seltzer.org</a> +1
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